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Hey, it's Charlotte, a little bit later than scheduled. Here's the second part

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of my fantastic conversation with Sarah Lane.

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Music.

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You do a show now called Apple Vision Show. Yeah.

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And almost like I planned it, we're hurtling towards another iPhone launch. It's September.

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Therefore, it must be new iPhone.

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Yeah, for sure. Yeah. September 9th. Are you excited about it?

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That's the announcement day. Yep.

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And yes, we're going to get new iPhones.

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IPhone 16. If they call it something else, I'll be super surprised.

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But let's just say it's going to be the iPhone 16. We're calling it iPhone 16, yeah. Yeah.

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And yeah, there's some interesting rumors. So I don't have, Oh, actually I did.

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I was on a walk with my dog earlier, so I didn't know if I had my phone handy.

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Um, but yeah, so I've got, I've got the 15 pro max. I love it.

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Um, I'm a pro max. Yeah.

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Um, even though I'm, I'm a, I'm a small person with small hands,

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I want the biggest phone possible.

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So, so I didn't get the

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15 when it first came out last year because I

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was just in good shape with my 14 but i did

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get it uh i think i've

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had this since probably march i went

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12 to 15 oh see now that's

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a that so that's a fun jump that's a fun jump i was actually no 13 i had the

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13 pro max and it was just fine in fact it was the first iphone i hadn't shattered

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by dropping it onto asphalt in quite some time. I was like, I'm doing good.

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Yeah. So went to the 15 and I feel like anytime I have a new phone,

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I mean, I've always had an iPhone since there have been iPhones,

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so, you know, smartphone, but let's call it an iPhone.

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Um, every time I've, I've had one, if I don't have it for a year and there's

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another one, I mean, unless again,

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like I've I've dropped it into a toilet or something and I need a new phone,

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which has happened. We've all been there. Yeah. Yeah.

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I don't feel the need to upgrade. So I am not in the market for a new iPhone

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at this time. Somebody were to buy it for me, that would be different.

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But right now I just feel like I'm excited, but I'm not going to get the rumored

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perhaps even larger Pro Max.

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Yes. That's what they're still calling it. Let's deal with some of the rumors.

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So we're hearing 6.3-inch and 6.9-inch phones.

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Mm-hmm. Yep. A new capture button.

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Yeah, and that one's... Well, so I...

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I don't know. I, I, this one is a little curious to me.

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So the idea would be, especially, you know, like for front facing stuff that

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you would have a dedicated physical button, um, just for, uh, for photos video.

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And you might have stuff on the fly, like, you know, zoom in or telephoto or,

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you know, uh, do your, do your thing, um, without having to,

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you know, open up the camera app type thing.

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I do that from my lock screen already a lot.

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I mean, can't tell you how many photos I take where I'm just like,

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don't even need to open the phone, just take the picture. And then I'll like deal with it later.

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Usually if I see like somebody's funny license plate type thing and dogs, I assume dogs or dogs.

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Yeah. Or just whatever. Yeah. I see a Waymo. Well, I'm not taking pictures of Waymos anymore.

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Cause like they're everywhere. But the first couple of times I was like oh my

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gosh phone it's locked but uh but yeah so the dedicated physical button,

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okay I mean that's cool I'm surprised by this because Apple I thought always

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got tech was trying to remove physical buttons because they think they think

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it's a component that can go wrong yeah same that's kind of where I am on that

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too so I actually when I was reading this stuff I I was surprised.

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Yeah, especially because, you know, at this point, you know,

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I, you know, looking at my 15, you know, you got the one on the side.

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That's how you, you know, you engage S-I-R-I. I won't say her name just in case

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it seems to trigger everybody.

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And, you know, over on the left, you got volume and then you've got that action

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button that you can program.

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I've never even changed my action button. I think I turned mine.

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It's literally just silence or mute, mute or turn back on type thing.

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Even though I know I have options, I'm like, it works. I like it this way.

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And I use it as the like capture to take pictures with. So it's like a camera.

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So there you go. Yeah. So that's, I think that's probably, as we're talking

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about this, like Apple is saying so many people have programmed that action

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button to be what you use it for.

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Yeah. Why not just give people that photo button and then they can make the

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action button something else? Yeah, I would just suppose.

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And I know it does introduce more complexity hardware-wise, but, you know, here we are.

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It's interesting, but I think it does tell us something as well,

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that Apple now really, look, we've always known that Apple takes the camera

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on the iPhone really seriously.

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But we're now starting to see real films, photography, Photography,

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really high-end stuff produced using a high-end iPhone.

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And they're obviously really, which is how it comes back to media in lots of

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ways and why I always like to talk about the iPhone.

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Because it is now, with every generation, it becomes a real affordable media production device.

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Indeed. And that actually, you know, one of the rumors of the camera,

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because the camera is always going to be better.

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That's just that's what we expect from iPhones.

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Yeah. Just like it was already so great. And now it's even greater. Yeah.

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Well, OK. You know, I always make the joke is is every every Apple event and

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other companies do this, too.

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It's not just Apple, but every Apple event. They said, this is the best iPhone

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camera we have ever made.

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And it's like, what else are you going to say?

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This is as good as it was last year.

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Or this is not quite as good as last year, but still pretty good.

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Like, it's like, yes, Apple, we get it.

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But it has gotten so good. And I'm trying to remember the first movie.

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I don't know if it was the first.

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Well, it wasn't the first movie shot on an iPhone because that was a long time

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ago. But the first movie that I watched that was, it was like an indie movie,

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but it was like a movie in theaters.

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And it was known as like, they shot this whole thing on like an iPhone 4 or,

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you know, a series of iPhone 4.

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So yeah, it was a long time ago. And it was good enough that it could be blown

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up to a big cinema screen.

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Yeah, like you watch it and it's, you know, it has a certain style that movies

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have. But at no point do you go, oh, yeah, this seems sort of like a mobile phone movie.

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Not at all. Gosh, I can't remember the name of it now. But so one of the rumors

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is that perhaps the variety of lenses and sensors now that are on the back part of the iPhone,

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the important camera,

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although front facing cameras are good now, too.

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They may change the array

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maybe a vertical array rather than the you

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know triangular slash square way that we have right

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now now that's what for those because i don't put the video out sarah's point

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to get the different lenses at the top of your iphone and they're going to be

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there are other things that have do that vertically on there i'm sure some of

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the android phones have vertical rows yeah i've seen that and i am i am sort of like i get specked out

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of photography stuff at this point sometimes where I'm like,

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I don't know, is the vertical array better?

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Just do the thing you think is better and, you know, I'll enjoy it.

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You know, I take a nice, you know, slow-mo video of my dog. I'm like, this looks amazing.

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Yeah, we're good. It's really interesting because a lot of creators I see,

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and obviously lots of conventional TV companies and media countries still use

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the kind of classic Canon, Samsung,

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you know, whatever type cameras, Sony cameras.

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Yeah. I have some Panasonic cameras in my office closet right now that they're nice.

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I should sell them because I don't use them and I don't feel I need them.

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There you go. And that's what I'm getting at because the iPhone camera now is

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doing almost anything you could possibly need to make content of any description.

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100%. Yeah. I can't tell you how many times, and again, there are other models,

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but if we're talking about iPhones specifically,

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I can't tell you how many times somebody I will see, again, because we're all

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remote now, I'll go, God, what are you using?

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Your shot looks so good. And they go, oh, my iPhone. It's just above my monitor.

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Lighting, obviously, is a big part of it. And that's where you get into,

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you know, going back to the production conversation and you saying such nice

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things about Twit when you first started to see us like, oh,

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okay, they care about quality and everything.

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I mean, audio quality, huge part of this, huge part of this.

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Lighting, you know, I mean, I took lighting classes in college.

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I kind of had to. It was part of, you know, my major. I had to take them even

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though I wasn't super into lighting.

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In yeah but um you know that all that

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stuff is stuff that you go yeah i

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mean does it really matter but when you see something that's poor quality these

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days because it's so easy to to do high quality you go yeah they're not trying

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that hard or you know they don't even they're using their iphone mic they're

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not using a you know different mic or i mean even or you see something.

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Exactly. Even that makes it a bit better. Yeah, it does.

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We have guests on daily tech news show all the time who they don't have,

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you know, a PR 40, which is the mic that I'm talking into right now.

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It's not the only super high end mic, but it's a, it's an industry standard

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studio mic, right? You've got a lot of options.

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I've got an audio technical one here. which is yeah yeah

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also very nice very nice and

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uh i've got some cm uh

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85s from sure that i use if i

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have to you know work on the road or or set

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up a mobile rig lots of options but even

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you know and we will say you know sometimes someone's like

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either there's a mic issue or they

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just didn't think about it beforehand they're like you know

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our airpods are okay or something equivalent you

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know where it's like a bluetooth you know earbud type thing and

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the answer is no but it used to

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be no and now we have to cancel you your you

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know appearance because we we simply can't do this and now

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it's like yeah it'll sound not that

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great but it's okay it's passable so

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we're getting there we're getting there and this is we're gonna

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put out some new airpods have we got new airpods on the

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way well i've got the uh the airpods

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pro i have now um they're

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the in-ear version airpods pro max

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are you know the over the ear version i don't have those airpods pro have changed

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my life for the better i had in-ear headphones earbuds from jabra uh the job

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or something do you think And we're going to get some new AirPods with this on set in September 9th.

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Well, so the room, you know, again,

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these are all rumors, but rumors are that because you've got the AirPods two

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and the AirPods pro and the, what pro has that I think is,

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is very important for me is, is noise canceling and also adaptive noise canceling.

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That is so helpful to me when I'm out and about, you know, walking in an urban

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environment, I have a lot of control over like, do I want the world to go away?

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Do I want the world to come through?

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Do I want the world to go away until I talk to somebody that I might be almost

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running into on the corner type thing?

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The rumor is that other models of the AirPods will get some of that good spatial

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audio, another thing, if you care about that.

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So what's going to differentiate Pro and normal AirPods? Good question.

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Good question. I don't know. I don't know.

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Right now. And I think that sometimes even those of us who work in the industry,

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we suffer from the sort of like, but it's good.

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So I can't imagine how it could get better. Sort of like an iPhone camera from

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five years ago. It's like, yeah, it's fine. Right. Like, how is it going to get better?

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Maybe they just do. I think with earbuds and headphones specifically,

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you have an interesting, you know, I told you I was an audiophile.

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I love, I've loved this stuff since I was younger, but I have gotten to the

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point where, first of all, I listen to more podcasts than I do music these days,

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even though music is part of podcasts, depending on what you listen to.

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But um i i get diminishing

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returns from you know the best quality

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audio it's kind of like you know 4k

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tv versus 8k my eyes don't see

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it most human eyes don't see yeah so it's

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it's it's it's like all right you know

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hit me wow me with the specs let's see

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what's up um if it was a a different design or you

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know something that might in

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a some sort of way i mean series built into it but some sort of way where it's

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like an ai assistant that's part of the air pod experience in some way that

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like ai pin people are trying to do right now you know i don't know i'll be

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be really interested to see that.

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I'm also interested if they ever, what they do with the AirPod Max,

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the over ear ones, because I've seen them getting increasingly popular,

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but they're still very expensive.

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They're very expensive. And I also, so I belong to a, like a fitness gym down,

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I'm pointing as if you know where I'm pointing to, but down the street from me.

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And it's kind of a it's like a

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I'm not much of like a muscle head but it's

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kind of that kind of that gym you walk in and

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people are they're lifting you know they're not

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very LA it's very LA and Charlotte you should see this place I mean it's like

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crazy lighting and like loud music where it's like dance club 10 a.m kind of

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thing but but it's close to me so whatever but so many people People are wearing them.

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I mean, you know, Beats Pro, you know, there are other over the ear headphones that people also wear.

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But specifically the AirPods Pro Max, because I know how expensive they are.

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And I'm like, yeah, I mean, I guess you can swap out your cuffs here and there.

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But the gym specifically is a germ materia, you know? Sure.

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People, people are sweaty and wet.

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Every time I see somebody wearing them, I'm just like, really?

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I don't know how you do that. Like if I, the only thing that I have that's over

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the air are the studio headphones that I'm wearing right now,

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which are great for a studio environment as long as you're not too warm in a, in a room.

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I can't work out in these. I only ever work out in AirPods pro.

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Yeah tuck them away anyway just 500

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pounds the airpods max i'm really interested to see

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if apple ever upgrades them because they've

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been around a while now and we haven't had an upgrade so i'll be very interested

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to see if and when that happens anyway sarah lane this has been such a pleasure

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well charlotte henry i i the pleasure is all mine um just remind people where

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they can hang out with you,

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keep up with you, send you lovely messages slash abuse. Of course.

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Yeah. So, uh, Daily Tech News Show, uh, is, is, is my, is my Daily Tech News Show.

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Um, it's exactly what it sounds like.

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Um, DailyTechNewsShow.com will give you all the links and all the things.

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Um, Daily Tech Headlines. Um, I also host, uh, twice a week.

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Um, Rob Dunwood, uh, does it the rest of the week, the two of us tag team daily tech headlines.

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And that is for daily tech news show. It's a half hour show.

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That's, you know, all about the tech news headlines are, is a five minute show,

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you know? So if you don't have time, you got a couple of options.

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Um, I do a couple of things behind the scene.

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Um, just, you know, helping other people out with pods, this and that there's

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always new projects, uh, being cooked up in the works, um, to keep up with,

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with all of that Sarah lane.com.

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It's not that exciting everybody. So, you know, don't expect much for my web

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website, but that's where I give people the latest and the greatest.

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And yes, if you have feedback for me, sarah at sarahlayne.com, send it my way.

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I always love feedback.

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Wonderful. It's been so great to hang out with you. I'm at Charlotte A.

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Henry across social media.

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Obviously, I hope you're listening or reading The Edition, both the blog at

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theedition.net and the newsletter, which you you can subscribe to for a mere £5 a month.

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That's newsletter.theedition.net, although everything goes to the website as well.

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I'm so excited to be back. Sarah, thank you once again for being here,

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and I'll see you all soon.

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Music.

