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Quiet numbskulls, I'm broadcasting. Hello and welcome to So There I Was,

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which is how all aviation stories begin.

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This is episode number 208, New Life for YL-37.

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A helicopter that's just a few months older than repeat. Oh my gosh.

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I know, right? Yeah. What a fabulous story about this helicopter,

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which we had already talked about multiple episodes ago.

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61, episode 61. Don't ever do that again.

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That was a couple episodes ago. Yeah, man.

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Anyway, Duber's back, and he's got an amazing story to tell.

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And we hope that it is a life-changing event for YL-37.

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Absolutely. Absolutely. And, you know, while I'm at it, I mean,

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the helicopter looks better than me after 64 years.

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But, you know. Oh, my gosh. I'm trying to get some help there through our sponsor,

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oneskin.co. Thanks to them for a sponsor. How's that for a creative segue, huh?

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So make yourself look better. Make your walls look better. These folks are helping

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keeping this show come to you, as is Al Cisneros.

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Yeah. Al, your financial advisor is going to be pissed. I just say that.

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I am very, very concerned about your financial judgment, Al,

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but we are so very humbled that you've donated.

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Thank you so much, because that was giant. Giant. Yeah, it was.

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Absolutely. So this is a fantastic episode. Going to hear all about YL-37 and

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how it's a new life for this airplane, but it's changing the lives of a lot

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of veterans who spent some time, were saved by it.

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And it's YL-37.org.

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Is the website for this. It's a flying memorial and the website's amazing.

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Duber's wife did it and the whole history is there.

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Testimonials. There's one on the fallen ugly angels is one of the pages that they have.

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And if you tap on that and then go down and tap on the pictures,

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it gives you biographies of many of the ugly angels who have flown that airplane.

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And one of a Lance Corporal, I believe, who died in that airplane.

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So yeah, powerful stuff.

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So God bless you, Duber, and your mission to keep this flying war memorial alive.

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It's incredible effort on your part, and we were thrilled to have him back.

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If you can, go to yl-37.org and throw your financial judgment out the window to him too.

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That's right. Right. And by the way, we're looking for a major benefactor for

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this project. So if you know somebody that's got more money than they know what

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to do with, this would be an excellent opportunity.

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It really would, because it does. It changes lives. There's no two ways about it.

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There are people who who get some real healing out of going and seeing this

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airplane and even getting a ride in it. So I think.

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So there I was, 10 years old, sitting around the dinner table,

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trying not to get choked up.

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And all my dad's buddies, we just finished pheasant hunting down on the farm in southwest Iowa.

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Guys that were my mentors, talking the stories about getting shot at by the

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Vietnamese, creating new tactics, flying backwards out of LZs,

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you know, shutting off lights.

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Firing back with their snub nose 38s and my jaw is just on the floor listening

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to these stories trying to figure out how can i get a little bit a piece of this when i grow up.

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And here we are there it is and you got more than a piece of it oh man yeah

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greetings everyone One repeat here.

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So there I was coming to you from Pensamacola, Florida, where we all been at

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one point or another, right?

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Yeah. Where's my cohorts? Right there.

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There you go, right? Yeah. I'm blessed enough to be at home in Kearney,

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Missouri, a little slice of God's country for me.

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And it is our distinct pleasure to bring back one of our favorites,

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duber to tell some awesome stories and

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and with some big fucking news well sit

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on that collective don't sit on the collective that's right that's right

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but well well now we can't ask our first question which we've already asked

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you back on show 61 don't ever do that again which was actually one of my favorite

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stories i love telling that story yeah the uh yeah but we know how you got interested

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in aviation, marine aviation.

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Hey, before we go any further, just let me say, you're...

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You're still there I was opener it it fucking

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got me dude yeah right that is

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awesome the hair on my arm stood up and there'll be

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more you fucking bastard stop because we've

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got we've had the pleasure of having one eye

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and gunny who were probably sitting at that table they

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were indeed they were no shit I'm just

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sad we weren't able to have your pop join us tell talk up your pop a little

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bit brag on the man yeah i mean iowa farm boy spent his life doing fixing hot

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you know fixing fence castrating hogs shearing sheep and you know was a hell of an athlete and.

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Decided to go to the marine corps service country very early

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in vietnam 1965 i remember

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him saying how during the cuban missile crisis you know

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they didn't have any m14 rifles so they had to use broomsticks

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for manual of arms at ocs they didn't

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do tps then so it was ocs

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straight to flight school you know he went to flight school one fly

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helicopters got to be part of the ugly

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angels you know the old squadron and went

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into vietnam 13 months

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in in country he got shot down 11 times got

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a purple heart came home

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one to keep flying raised a

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bunch of money got some partners and started flying with the hughes 269 and

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then he bought a couple of bell 47s like the mash helicopter sprayed crops yeah

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bought an h34 did heavy lift work and you know raised raised eight kids yeah,

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put us through, put us through college and whatever we were doing.

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And then I was the only one that, that of my brothers and sisters that wasn't colorblind.

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And I had to grow up, decide what I was going to do out of college.

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And I thought, Hey, maybe I'll, you know, let the Marine Corps pay for my,

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pay for my training and 20, 20 years, two months, 28 days in a wake up. Here we are.

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How about that shit? Well, there's that. But as I recall, you had your training

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before you got to the Marine Corps, hence your story. Don't ever do that again.

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Twice as many rotary wing hours as uh yeah i can honestly say you're the only

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guy i i know that's ever been delivered to a baseball game via helicopter to

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the outfield yeah my son yesterday asked me if i could take him to the prom

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next year and i said we'll see we'll see,

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hey before we go a whole lot further i just

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want to i just want to go back what would we say

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episode 60 61 61 again

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we we tied the bow on the fact that you

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flew h50 ch53s in

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the exact same squadron that your dad flew h34 correct yeah pretty which is

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pretty badass very lucky very fortunate you know the stars aligned maybe a little

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help from some leadership just because they knew that this was something that

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was so rare that kind of got to capitalize on those things and.

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Yeah. Oh, yeah. Get a pitch. Yeah. Yeah, for sure.

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Well, and you're certainly trying to capitalize on it. I've referred to it a

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couple times now, so I think I feel kind of compelled if you would tell the

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don't ever do that again story. Yeah.

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Don't ever fucking do that again. One of my first flights flying the TH-57 right

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there. Jet Ranger, right? Yeah, Jet Ranger.

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You know, I kept my mouth shut. I wanted to, I wanted my, I wanted to try and

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just let my skills do the talking of what little bit of skills I had.

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Cause I had, you know, like I said, in 61, dad taught me a lot of great things

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about listening to the aircraft.

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And he also, you know, there's no old pilots.

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There's no bold pilots or there's old, there's bold, but there's no old bold. And I disagree.

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My dad was old and bold and he did a lot of things that would just make an aircraft sing.

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And first time the instructor

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was like hey take the controls and we

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did a pedal turn left pedal turn right and i did

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the millennium falcon sliding turning departure and

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he didn't say apparently is a very advanced move huh i wouldn't

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say advanced but if you do it right and you do it smooth you know

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it's pretty fun and it's pretty cool and then up in the downwind he's like

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man that was awesome but don't ever fucking do that again

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hey will

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you show me with your hand yeah what the

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hell you're talking about well i don't have a model sitting here with me

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but i mean essentially you got a helicopter do your

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pedal turn you do your pedal turn and then

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i just went backwards and tucked the nose and slid out like the middle okay

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okay okay yeah yeah he's like that was awesome don't ever do that again don't

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don't do that again you could do that you could do that with me if we fly again

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but don't don't uh so at that point the the cat was out of the bag and he said,

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okay, who the hell are you? How did you know how to do that?

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I mean, I told him I'd spent my whole childhood flying with my dad,

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me and my brothers, and we all kind of had our own way of doing things, and.

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Yeah there you go what do you say that's awesome awesome

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story man fantastic and some h34 time

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already by then right a couple three hours yeah a couple three i'd

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usually get my flight time coming home from from lift

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jobs and stuff because we would dad would

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use this helicopter the h34 because it had about a 5 000 pound lift capacity

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for putting air conditioners you know red iron construction materials up on

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great big buildings and stuff and it's extremely tedious but also exhausting

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work and you know he'd be exhausted and he'd just be like just fly down this road.

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Wake me up we get close because he was struggling and and

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that's how i got the majority of my time was straight and

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level not dangerous but he'd hear that engine you know

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that big 1820 puts out 1500 plus horsepower and

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when you you don't even have to look at the gauges you

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can just hear that audible change in the

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rpm and he'd wake up and go oh we

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must be home okay i got it you

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know yeah that's pretty awesome nice that's

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pretty awesome all right and is this is that

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your mom or your that's my brother that's my

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brother okay all right good to see

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you jim thanks thanks buddy i love i

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love this shirt i need to get some more now that we know who

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the actual owner is i know i know a

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guy they were in your neck of the woods just uh last week

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i got some money to throw at the cause man i need a

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hat i need some shirts you know bald guys need hats so i

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got to get a hat got to get some that's why i'm wearing one there you

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go so so let's talk about this thing how so tell

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tell us the story of how this came about so uh

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i'll do my best to paraphrase when only got an hour and a half a long a guy

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who does what my dad did with heavy lift work he bought he bought some h-34s

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and he he used him for his construction business name is gerald hale god rest

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his soul great man pure southern country gentleman.

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He bought some H-34s. He'd rebuild them. He used them to move heavy equipment

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into the hills, into directional drilling and whatnot.

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And over time, he'd go down to the boneyard. He'd pull these things out.

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And he came across this one.

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He bought it. It sat for quite a while, for about 10, 12 years.

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And it got to the point where he was going to rebuild it. Started stripping

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the paint off of it, pulling the floor panels out.

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Reviewing the logbook, seeing what squadron it was in as it was transferred

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from 363 to 263 around and stripping the paint, finding patches.

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This old aircraft's got 54 bullet holes in it, three years in combat from 65 to 68.

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It ended its tour in Vietnam when

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it was on the ground and it got hit by a rocket, blew the tail off of it.

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They sent it to sidlam up in korea the depot level maintenance

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guys fixed it and by that time you know the 46s the

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hueys had really started taking off turbine engines so it

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was kind of obsolete so they sent the helicopter

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back to the united states and it

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was a training aircraft for a while and then they mothballed it

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and that's where gerald comes in he got it brought it back to oklahoma oklahoma

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that's i was gonna ask what part of the country is yeah tulsa oklahoma

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little town inola and man what a

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great guy i can't say enough about the guy i know

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i know uh oklahoma that's what's what

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it says right there right so he he found out this history and you want to talk

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about someone who is just completely dedicated to the preservation of history

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he painstakingly repainted this aircraft yl-37 yankee lima 37 which is the two-letter

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identifier for the ugly angels still to this day.

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And he repainted it exactly like it was in Vietnam. And they had their first,

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reunion, I think it was 1999.

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And he found a bunch of old uglies and it just exploded.

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And for 20 plus years, he flew it to reunions and schools.

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And with the mission of preserving the history, but also telling some of the

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untold stories of the Vietnam War,

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they put a brass plate on the sliding door on the side of the helicopter dedicated

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to the 33 crew members and pilots that died in Vietnam from 1962 to 1969 when

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the Uglies were there. And the,

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Unfortunately, Gerald passed away about 11 years ago, and two local,

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actually three local friends there, Mike and Jesse Schneider,

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and then his longtime mechanic, Greg Dirks,

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they kept the aircraft flying for about 10 years, not doing a ton with it,

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but still trying to keep it active.

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Unfortunately, they sold off a lot of Gerald's things, his parts and other helicopters.

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I mean, because at one point he had four, I think four H-34s. He had a Black Hawk.

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Oh, wow. He was big at Lover of the Enstrom, which is a smaller helicopter.

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And about a year ago, his wife, Lily, approached me about taking over the mission

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and taking over this helicopter.

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So I got my type rating certification. We flew it to Pensacola for a huge reunion.

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We flew it up here to the Iowa State Fair and to some other local events with

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the moving Vietnam Wall.

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And we landed it there and did some stuff. And I tell you, the reason why I'm

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doing this is how healing it is for these old boys.

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Nice. These guys that just come out of the woodwork to see this thing and touch

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it and feel it and smell it.

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It's just overwhelming.

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Absolutely overwhelming. And that's Avgas, right?

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Yeah, 110. Yes. Yeah. So it's got it's got a special smell to it.

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And then, yeah, and that and the sweat and everything else. I can only imagine what.

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Sorry, I swallowed a bug. Back in time, 60 years. No, man, not at all.

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God bless you. And then that just shows me how much your heart is in the right place over this.

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You know, these are men who never

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got the thank you and never got the acknowledgement for what they did.

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You know, the call signs ugly angels, but they were angels, man.

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And they pulled a lot of Marines and a lot of soldiers and everybody else out

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of a real shit sandwich to include 64.

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You're going to have to talk me out with one eye who literally left an eye in Vietnam.

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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the whole reason why we're doing this is to honor my dad's

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legacy. Me and my brothers have...

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We've banded together with support from my mom, my wife.

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I mean, you want to talk about a social media frigging Mack truck,

00:17:48.548 --> 00:17:51.568
get out of the way. My wife is phenomenal at it.

00:17:51.928 --> 00:17:57.968
And I don't know if you guys follow our YL37 Facebook page, but she schedules posts.

00:17:58.168 --> 00:18:00.568
I mean, she grabs things that I look at over and over again.

00:18:00.568 --> 00:18:06.688
I'm just amazed at how good she is and the people that comment and talk about their experiences.

00:18:07.048 --> 00:18:10.208
And I was just like, that's what we got to capture. I want to capture all these

00:18:10.208 --> 00:18:12.488
things. I want to get people in front of this helicopter.

00:18:13.848 --> 00:18:18.348
And, yeah, I mean, she's got a beautiful history. It's an amazing airplane.

00:18:18.568 --> 00:18:22.768
She's got a lot of life left in her. And I'm going to fly it around the Midwest

00:18:22.768 --> 00:18:27.628
until I either go broke or, yeah, hopefully neither have. All right.

00:18:28.128 --> 00:18:30.608
All right. Well, it's going to try and get you there, I'm sure.

00:18:30.808 --> 00:18:36.368
But to what degree can you talk about what is this kind of cost?

00:18:36.368 --> 00:18:41.908
Because obviously you need either deep pockets or a lot of help from people

00:18:41.908 --> 00:18:44.528
who understand that this history is important.

00:18:45.148 --> 00:18:46.788
Sure. Well, the, you know, the

00:18:46.788 --> 00:18:52.108
difficult thing about this is it's 1960s technology, late 50s, early 60s.

00:18:52.268 --> 00:18:55.848
This aircraft rolled across the assembly line in Bridgeport, Connecticut in 1961.

00:18:56.848 --> 00:19:01.648
So there's no more rotor blades. You can't, they're not rebuilding them.

00:19:01.648 --> 00:19:06.668
So, I mean, if you can find good rotor blade, that's $60,000, $80,000.

00:19:07.548 --> 00:19:13.828
You know, I got a buddy of mine who's flying at age 34 doing heavy lift work

00:19:13.828 --> 00:19:17.268
right now, and he just had an engine rebuilt. It was, you know,

00:19:17.308 --> 00:19:19.868
just shy of 90 grand to have a rebuilt motor.

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I got three old motors, but they're all timed out and beat up.

00:19:24.941 --> 00:19:29.561
The part, and just over my shoulder in my shop here, my brothers and I went

00:19:29.561 --> 00:19:32.381
down to Oklahoma and pulled a bunch of the parts back this weekend.

00:19:33.661 --> 00:19:37.021
And there is a lot of stuff. But, you know, for the most part,

00:19:37.221 --> 00:19:40.481
it's got to be overhauled. It's got to be rebuilt. It's got to be recertified.

00:19:41.761 --> 00:19:44.601
So, as you can imagine, there's not very many guys doing it.

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There's only a couple guys in the United States that even know how to rebuild

00:19:47.741 --> 00:19:53.161
an 1,820 cubic inch Wright Cyclone, a reciprocated engine.

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Right you know the cylinders are the size of a coffee can you know the inch fuel line,

00:20:00.021 --> 00:20:03.121
and my dad always used to say i mean this thing will when you're really working

00:20:03.121 --> 00:20:06.681
it it'll burn 100 gallons of fuel an hour you know at five bucks an hour five

00:20:06.681 --> 00:20:10.761
bucks a gallon do the math you know and that five bucks was when gas was cheap

00:20:10.761 --> 00:20:11.981
i don't know what it is right now yeah.

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So yeah it's it's gonna be a labor of love you know

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i've got i got access to a couple guys that can

00:20:19.841 --> 00:20:23.701
help me fly it safely and my dad's

00:20:23.701 --> 00:20:28.781
old mechanic just lives up the road so i've got access to a lot of people that'll

00:20:28.781 --> 00:20:34.381
help me keep it going but really you know the mission is is trying to raise

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some funds so that i want to fly it for 10 years i'd like to fly it for 10 years,

00:20:40.861 --> 00:20:43.961
i need an operating budget of probably you know somewhere in

00:20:43.961 --> 00:20:46.741
the neighborhood 100 000 bucks a year to be able to

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do that and then uh and it would predominantly

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be you predominantly be taking it to air shows

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you know for static displays well i've

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got 12 events planned already in this year between

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going to memorial service at a cemetery just up the road here a memorial day

00:21:06.481 --> 00:21:13.721
service down at camp dodge at the army base okay uh state fair the iowa state

00:21:13.721 --> 00:21:18.201
fair which is huge we took it last year and put it in front of hundreds of thousands of people.

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Air shows we're gonna try to go to oshkosh good about putting money in your tip jar so to speak,

00:21:26.020 --> 00:21:30.380
some yeah yeah a lot of a lot more people we've got an old we got an old ammo

00:21:30.380 --> 00:21:33.700
can that you know we put out there for donations and we're selling hats and

00:21:33.700 --> 00:21:39.220
shirts and sure gerald created a children's book for it which is really really

00:21:39.220 --> 00:21:41.980
neat i'll make sure you guys get a copy of that yeah yeah,

00:21:43.620 --> 00:21:48.420
what about corporate sponsors so we're working on that you know we're talking

00:21:48.420 --> 00:21:50.480
to some fbo's about fuel sponsorship.

00:21:51.640 --> 00:21:53.920
There's some large...

00:21:54.559 --> 00:21:59.639
Deep pocketed farmers in the area that can hopefully help us out and we're going

00:21:59.639 --> 00:22:05.799
to do a couple fundraisers a 50 50 raffle reverse raffle here in iowa and yeah

00:22:05.799 --> 00:22:09.239
there's the old girl look at that sexy beast that's a good looking that's a

00:22:09.239 --> 00:22:12.159
good looking right up on the youtube channel yeah,

00:22:12.719 --> 00:22:17.419
so so let me ask a silly question i'm going to show you you know my ignorance

00:22:17.419 --> 00:22:22.839
the uber so you can laugh if you want there's no such thing as a.

00:22:25.319 --> 00:22:28.579
Remanufactured or a new technology type

00:22:28.579 --> 00:22:32.199
rotor blade that you could put on that helicopter you

00:22:32.199 --> 00:22:38.859
know you got to have the need so i'll use i'll use the sikorsky s61 which is

00:22:38.859 --> 00:22:44.059
essentially the h3 that i flew at hmx still a fairly predominant helicopter

00:22:44.059 --> 00:22:47.959
there's quite a few guys out there that use them for heavy lift work because

00:22:47.959 --> 00:22:49.399
they'll lift about 10,000 pounds.

00:22:49.879 --> 00:22:53.899
There's a company called Carson Helicopters that's pretty famous on the East

00:22:53.899 --> 00:22:57.879
Coast or West Coast for doing heavy lift work, firefighting, stuff like that.

00:22:58.139 --> 00:23:04.719
And they rebuilt, got a STC from the FAA to rebuild those into,

00:23:04.939 --> 00:23:07.699
I don't know if they're composite or not, but they've got a swept blade to them

00:23:07.699 --> 00:23:11.399
or a swept trailing edge tip, rotor tip.

00:23:11.619 --> 00:23:14.439
And they were able to increase the lift by about 2

00:23:14.439 --> 00:23:17.239
000 pounds but the cost to do that

00:23:17.239 --> 00:23:20.539
is millions of dollars millions of dollars because

00:23:20.539 --> 00:23:23.799
you've got to submit you know you got to submit the drawings the specifications

00:23:23.799 --> 00:23:26.999
then you got to do flight testing you got to put all the data you got to put

00:23:26.999 --> 00:23:30.819
that package in front of the faa and then they've got to approve it and so an

00:23:30.819 --> 00:23:39.639
ftc is a special type certificate that and everyone is different and you've

00:23:39.639 --> 00:23:43.619
got to have enough aircraft to justify it right so there's i think there's,

00:23:44.299 --> 00:23:49.939
There's three or four companies that are flying this helicopter with turbine engines in it, an S-58.

00:23:50.179 --> 00:23:53.479
The civilian version of an H-34 is an S-58 Sikorsky.

00:23:54.399 --> 00:23:57.879
And the T version has two PT-6s mounted in the front.

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And uh very very efficient lifting helicopter

00:24:02.481 --> 00:24:05.281
but you still have the max gross weight limitations of

00:24:05.281 --> 00:24:08.321
the airframe so you're still only lifting about 5 000 pounds

00:24:08.321 --> 00:24:11.641
but you've got a much higher power to weight ratio and

00:24:11.641 --> 00:24:14.661
you know dead man's curve you're staying on the healthy side

00:24:14.661 --> 00:24:18.281
of it rather than the bad side but i

00:24:18.281 --> 00:24:20.961
gotta ask what that is when you get we don't have to

00:24:20.961 --> 00:24:23.641
do it now but come back to dead man's curve there as far as the

00:24:23.641 --> 00:24:26.461
performance numbers so you you you would you're you want

00:24:26.461 --> 00:24:29.101
to keep it original yes absolutely i want to keep it

00:24:29.101 --> 00:24:32.141
as close to original as possible the only thing that this thing doesn't have

00:24:32.141 --> 00:24:35.641
on it just because of the weight is they

00:24:35.641 --> 00:24:39.881
were getting shot up so much in vietnam because that that engine on the front

00:24:39.881 --> 00:24:44.861
was just a friggin bullet magnet i mean my dad my dad flew out some that were

00:24:44.861 --> 00:24:48.981
missing missing cylinders he flew one out that only was firing on three pistons

00:24:48.981 --> 00:24:54.141
once and was able to create enough power yeah how's that How's that possible?

00:24:55.061 --> 00:24:59.261
Cheating death every day. Yeah. Talking about bulletproof, but man, damn.

00:24:59.641 --> 00:25:04.541
So there was a, underneath the engine, if you bring up that other picture of

00:25:04.541 --> 00:25:07.681
the helicopter, there was a great big steel plate that went,

00:25:07.821 --> 00:25:10.421
because the oil cooler is right up underneath the motor.

00:25:10.801 --> 00:25:14.421
And that was how they were very susceptible to getting shot up,

00:25:14.721 --> 00:25:15.761
getting bullets holes on them.

00:25:16.301 --> 00:25:19.741
So right underneath that, the bottom of the motor there, there was a metal plate

00:25:19.741 --> 00:25:22.641
that went from all the way from the left side to the right side of the fuselage.

00:25:23.361 --> 00:25:27.001
So that probably wasn't very, that probably wasn't light. No,

00:25:27.321 --> 00:25:30.061
no. So I don't want to drag that extra weight around if I don't have to.

00:25:30.701 --> 00:25:34.661
I always say, go to the bathroom before you get in it so we can save a little gas. Right on.

00:25:35.621 --> 00:25:39.601
Yeah. All right. Wow. So, okay.

00:25:39.981 --> 00:25:44.841
And once again, I'm showing my lack of knowledge. You guys can laugh at me.

00:25:44.841 --> 00:25:46.961
Yeah, but you know how to hover, man. You got that part down.

00:25:47.161 --> 00:25:49.321
Yeah. Mind you, it was a weird hover in a Harrier.

00:25:49.721 --> 00:25:53.241
You were burning gas. out of an LZ, not necessarily on purpose.

00:25:53.461 --> 00:25:57.261
You were burning gas a hell of a lot faster than I was. We were heating it up.

00:25:57.908 --> 00:26:04.168
Because of the age of the airplane, could it not be classified as experimental?

00:26:04.468 --> 00:26:06.628
That was my question, yeah. Yep, it is experimental.

00:26:07.648 --> 00:26:12.828
So can you get by with not having STCs and things like that in an experimental

00:26:12.828 --> 00:26:13.928
airplane? I don't think so.

00:26:15.908 --> 00:26:18.888
I'm probably showing my own ignorance there, but I don't think so.

00:26:18.888 --> 00:26:23.188
The few guys that I know that still fly, there's probably only,

00:26:23.188 --> 00:26:31.428
I think, 12 flyable reciprocating engine helicopters of this variant out there.

00:26:31.548 --> 00:26:34.968
The guys that I talked to you about in Episode 61 out in Brewster,

00:26:35.108 --> 00:26:38.148
Washington, that do the Dry and Cherries.

00:26:38.428 --> 00:26:44.548
And then there's Hangar 58, a buddy of mine down in, I think he's Oklahoma City, that does it.

00:26:45.268 --> 00:26:49.548
And then, you know, you've got the T guys, Aris Helicopters, Air Crane.

00:26:49.788 --> 00:26:54.808
I got a good buddy that flies for Midwest Helicopters out in Chicago.

00:26:55.628 --> 00:26:59.928
So I was looking for that. Someone had sent me a video a couple of years ago right after your show.

00:27:00.168 --> 00:27:03.568
And you said you knew the guy and now I can't find that video.

00:27:03.788 --> 00:27:07.948
But yeah, it's Midwest Helicopters. OK, they're a good group of guys out there.

00:27:09.116 --> 00:27:12.556
So are you the, uh, the A&P and IA?

00:27:13.656 --> 00:27:17.456
No, I'm, I'm thinking about taking, you know, using the rest of my GI bill.

00:27:17.676 --> 00:27:21.536
Once my kids are done burning it up and see if I could go get my A&P,

00:27:21.676 --> 00:27:23.736
but my brother's probably going to get his.

00:27:24.056 --> 00:27:25.556
And then, like I said, I got access

00:27:25.556 --> 00:27:29.676
to the guy who's, who's busted his knuckles on this plane for years.

00:27:30.636 --> 00:27:33.616
He's actually an Iowa boy too. He sprays crops up here.

00:27:33.776 --> 00:27:36.616
So he said he'd help me. And then I got my dad's old mechanic.

00:27:36.616 --> 00:27:40.376
He's getting up there in age, but he is, he's pretty excited.

00:27:40.536 --> 00:27:45.556
This is really invigorated a lifeblood in him because I, I learned a lot from,

00:27:45.756 --> 00:27:49.856
not just from my dad, but from my dad's mechanics over the years.

00:27:49.996 --> 00:27:53.636
They were just, just great guys and they'd take the time to teach in.

00:27:54.516 --> 00:27:55.916
You know, how to do safety.

00:27:56.316 --> 00:27:58.736
Those guys just ooze knowledge, right? Oh my gosh. You just sit,

00:27:58.936 --> 00:28:01.076
yeah, just sit there and suck it all in.

00:28:01.356 --> 00:28:04.636
Right? Yeah. It's amazing to listen to them, guys like that,

00:28:04.776 --> 00:28:07.436
that, you know, they just say two or three things and you go,

00:28:07.616 --> 00:28:14.836
there's about four headlines in that sentence that I can now take and turn into

00:28:14.836 --> 00:28:17.116
gold because they understand.

00:28:17.436 --> 00:28:20.196
Yeah. So that's a good question that just came up.

00:28:20.276 --> 00:28:24.216
No, it does not have a governor or what you would consider like modern engines

00:28:24.216 --> 00:28:26.256
with a FADEC that'll protect it.

00:28:26.796 --> 00:28:32.736
You, you really have to fly this helicopter. There, there is no such thing is autopilot.

00:28:33.076 --> 00:28:38.076
I mean, you're, you're almost flying. Your scan is almost like flying instruments

00:28:38.076 --> 00:28:41.356
when you're flying at just VFR, you know, visual flight rules.

00:28:41.796 --> 00:28:45.336
Just to make sure the engine's hanging in with you. Well, you've got rotor RPM

00:28:45.336 --> 00:28:49.436
and you've got engine RPM, you know, and they're, they're mechanically linked

00:28:49.436 --> 00:28:51.036
through a hydraulic clutch.

00:28:51.316 --> 00:28:55.416
So, you know, when you start that motor, it's not a direct linkage. Yeah.

00:28:55.793 --> 00:28:59.593
You have to run the engine RPM up and then engage the clutch.

00:29:00.193 --> 00:29:02.793
Catch it. And, you know, just imagine like you're driving your pickup.

00:29:03.033 --> 00:29:05.433
You're putting a little bit of gas in. You're letting the clutch out,

00:29:05.573 --> 00:29:08.033
and you're not stalling it. You have to do the same thing.

00:29:08.573 --> 00:29:13.173
And then once you get that linkage locked. So that's the Tri-Tac gauge.

00:29:13.273 --> 00:29:16.493
Is that it? Yeah, triple-Tac. Yeah, triple-Tac.

00:29:16.973 --> 00:29:21.173
So which is what one eye broke with his fighting knife and put his finger in

00:29:21.173 --> 00:29:25.773
there to feel it to engage the rotor. So tell us how that system works,

00:29:25.813 --> 00:29:29.653
because that still is amazing to me that he has to wear with all the jubet.

00:29:29.933 --> 00:29:33.713
So the engine sits at an angle, right, like this.

00:29:34.253 --> 00:29:38.573
And then you've got a linkage drive shaft that goes up between the pilots.

00:29:38.933 --> 00:29:43.613
And about a third of the way up or right behind the engine is a little oval

00:29:43.613 --> 00:29:45.493
with a hydraulic clutch in it.

00:29:45.493 --> 00:29:48.453
And when you flip the

00:29:48.453 --> 00:29:51.453
switch and engage that clutch pushes all

00:29:51.453 --> 00:29:54.353
the fluid out engages the sprag clutches and

00:29:54.353 --> 00:29:58.353
and locks it in and then it goes up to the main gearbox up to the rotor system

00:29:58.353 --> 00:30:02.893
and then back down to the tail rotor blades and okay so that's the pfm box yeah

00:30:02.893 --> 00:30:08.533
it's the pt it's the pto knob on your on your mower deck right you pull your

00:30:08.533 --> 00:30:13.053
kind of essentially yeah or yeah right I mean, only it's a little more,

00:30:13.193 --> 00:30:15.553
you know, it's got a hydraulic clutch instead of. Yep.

00:30:16.373 --> 00:30:21.393
Yeah. So it's, it takes some finesse. You're not just going to hop in that thing, flip a switch and go.

00:30:22.333 --> 00:30:24.013
Yeah. So you, but you're, uh.

00:30:25.464 --> 00:30:28.984
Your rotor could be either still or it could be turning if you're just coasting.

00:30:29.084 --> 00:30:33.684
Like a guy just came into an LZ and he's still turning. But he's disengaged the rotor?

00:30:33.924 --> 00:30:37.604
No, you keep it engaged all the times.

00:30:37.924 --> 00:30:42.224
Okay. And when you get down and, you know, when you get there and land and you're

00:30:42.224 --> 00:30:45.224
done for the day, you know, you disengage the clutch and you just,

00:30:45.344 --> 00:30:50.424
the cyclic has a twist grip on it. And that's how you control the throttle.

00:30:50.964 --> 00:30:54.444
So dad always used to say to me, you know, when you want to try and maintain

00:30:54.444 --> 00:30:57.604
your rotor RPM, just squeeze, a little squeeze.

00:30:57.924 --> 00:31:00.144
And that's all it is. It's just like a tiniest little squeeze,

00:31:00.324 --> 00:31:03.224
maybe an eighth of an inch of a squeeze.

00:31:03.564 --> 00:31:05.884
And then if you really want to throw the coals to it, you know,

00:31:05.964 --> 00:31:06.964
you give it a good squeeze.

00:31:07.444 --> 00:31:12.544
And then to reduce the RPM, you just push a little bit and you unroll your hand.

00:31:13.504 --> 00:31:16.504
And when you're done flying, you know, at the end of the day,

00:31:16.644 --> 00:31:20.044
you land, let things cool down. You disengage the rotor system.

00:31:20.424 --> 00:31:27.244
And it disengages the sprag clutches from the rotor head, and then she'll cool down nice and easy.

00:31:28.844 --> 00:31:33.184
Okay. All right. Well, what has to be lined up then, though, in order to engage?

00:31:33.684 --> 00:31:37.164
I'm just going back to One Eye's story. Why did he have to take the class?

00:31:37.304 --> 00:31:40.904
I just want to say I'm very uncomfortable with this conversation. I'm very nervous.

00:31:42.124 --> 00:31:47.384
No, right? Well, so your engine RPM will be predominantly higher than your rotor

00:31:47.384 --> 00:31:54.864
RPM, And what you're trying to do is you're trying to match up rotor RPM line

00:31:54.864 --> 00:31:56.544
with the engine RPM line.

00:31:56.704 --> 00:31:58.904
And then once you get them lined up, they're locked.

00:31:59.304 --> 00:32:01.884
And then you carry them up together. And that's when you pull.

00:32:04.664 --> 00:32:08.344
That's what he was talking about. He was trying to line those up so he could

00:32:08.344 --> 00:32:10.824
add the power to get out of the LZ. Exactly. Exactly.

00:32:11.084 --> 00:32:14.164
Yeah, if you didn't have the clutch engaged, that motor is just going to freewheel.

00:32:14.164 --> 00:32:19.064
So just imagine your hand on a motorcycle, that clutch engage.

00:32:19.244 --> 00:32:21.104
You're sitting there jacking the throttle.

00:32:21.364 --> 00:32:24.804
It ain't going to move until you release that clutch, and then you drive away.

00:32:27.544 --> 00:32:33.124
Air shows. Almost. Air shows. It's so much more simple than that,

00:32:33.224 --> 00:32:35.264
you know. I'll try to make it sound complicated.

00:32:35.844 --> 00:32:40.624
Well, my palms are sweaty right now. Can we talk about something else? Yeah, right.

00:32:41.284 --> 00:32:44.424
Anything but helicopters. How many know? I want to talk about helicopters,

00:32:44.544 --> 00:32:46.984
but not this stuff. It's making me nervous.

00:32:47.704 --> 00:32:52.224
Air shows. What do you got on stack for this summer?

00:32:52.604 --> 00:32:56.804
So in May, we've got a couple of events, And then we're going to try to go out

00:32:56.804 --> 00:33:00.244
to what's called the Cavalcade of Plains in Bolingbrook, Illinois.

00:33:00.624 --> 00:33:05.724
They put together an air show out there June 6th and 7th.

00:33:06.564 --> 00:33:12.144
And then we're doing a big 4th of July, 250 years of being badasses and cash checks.

00:33:12.504 --> 00:33:17.444
My parents or my, excuse me, my in-laws own a wedding venue,

00:33:17.764 --> 00:33:20.324
an auction building here in central Iowa.

00:33:20.584 --> 00:33:25.704
So we're doing a big 4th of July brouhaha for that. And then I'll be down in

00:33:25.704 --> 00:33:33.924
my own stomping grounds in Griswold, Iowa, where I grew up July 11th, Oshkosh, end of July.

00:33:34.724 --> 00:33:40.904
And then back here in the Midwest for a local old settlers reunion in Maxwell,

00:33:41.364 --> 00:33:42.724
Iowa at the Iowa State Fair.

00:33:43.224 --> 00:33:46.104
We're going to the Iowa Jeep Show in September.

00:33:47.916 --> 00:33:53.096
The where's that where's that gonna be that's in garwin iowa gar gar with a

00:33:53.096 --> 00:33:59.476
g gar yeah with a g if i can raise the money and this is a big one i don't know

00:33:59.476 --> 00:34:00.816
if you guys ever heard of papa smoke,

00:34:02.436 --> 00:34:07.856
yeah yeah so the papa papa smoke reunion is down in houston at the end of september

00:34:07.856 --> 00:34:12.196
but that's going to be a big hurdle because that's about 20 hours of flying,

00:34:13.036 --> 00:34:17.956
it'd take me 10 hours to fly from iowa to houston and back and if you can imagine

00:34:17.956 --> 00:34:23.796
about two grand an hour 20 hours i just just made fig's brain hurt with that

00:34:23.796 --> 00:34:30.856
math but yeah right it ain't cheap hold on let me get my crayons out put them on the window yep yep.

00:34:32.876 --> 00:34:38.256
October 3rd we're gonna do something that i am extremely passionate about Now,

00:34:38.356 --> 00:34:42.956
there's, if you get on the Facebook page or the website called The Final Salute,

00:34:43.436 --> 00:34:45.976
there's a lady here in Iowa.

00:34:46.316 --> 00:34:49.156
Her name's Linnae Stovers. I think it's Stovers.

00:34:49.676 --> 00:34:52.016
She approached us at the Iowa State Fair.

00:34:53.156 --> 00:35:01.016
She is a funeral director, and she has organized unclaimed remains for veterans.

00:35:02.401 --> 00:35:08.421
And she has a network where they find veterans that have no family members,

00:35:08.681 --> 00:35:14.941
no one to advise them of the directions for the funeral, what they want to have done.

00:35:15.121 --> 00:35:20.561
I was lucky enough to be asked by Lene to participate, and I was a flag bearer

00:35:20.561 --> 00:35:25.401
for one of the, I think, 20 unclaimed veterans that we put at the Iowa Veterans

00:35:25.401 --> 00:35:29.621
Cemetery in Van Meter, just west of Des Moines last year.

00:35:29.621 --> 00:35:38.881
And October 3rd, we're going to fly the veterans, unclaimed veterans, from the service.

00:35:39.161 --> 00:35:43.541
Yeah, that's going to be a big one. I'm really excited about that one.

00:35:43.821 --> 00:35:51.201
Yeah. That is awesome. Let me briefly state that if you want to help, you can Venmo.

00:35:51.801 --> 00:36:02.221
The Venmo address is at UniformAlphaMikeFoxtrot362. So U-A-M-F-3-6-2 to help

00:36:02.221 --> 00:36:05.761
cover the cost for something as important as important.

00:36:05.761 --> 00:36:08.501
Can we put his QR code? And we'll put that memo code.

00:36:08.621 --> 00:36:16.621
Yeah, we'll put his QR code on. So there I was, dot U-S slash episode slash 2-0-8.

00:36:16.861 --> 00:36:20.381
Is that what I said? 8, 2-0-8, 2-0-8. Yeah. Show 2-0-8, yeah. Yep.

00:36:21.341 --> 00:36:26.581
Yeah, we've got a 501c3 formed. to the Ugly Angel Memorial Foundation is going

00:36:26.581 --> 00:36:29.321
to take care of the health care and feeding of this helicopter.

00:36:30.721 --> 00:36:37.341
And, yeah, our plan is to keep flying this thing as long as I can get gas and keep the funds rolling.

00:36:37.501 --> 00:36:40.341
You know, it's going to be a labor of love. And I've got it right here.

00:36:40.501 --> 00:36:44.041
I'm going to have the helicopter right here at my house so I can work on it

00:36:44.041 --> 00:36:47.781
when my wife lets me go out to the shop and have kitchen pass time. Right.

00:36:48.621 --> 00:36:50.621
I love that.

00:36:52.461 --> 00:36:56.961
Oh man asking if your ads be capable is that i don't think that's required yet,

00:36:58.281 --> 00:36:59.981
everywhere in the states are you ads b.

00:37:02.540 --> 00:37:05.500
Oh 80 yeah yeah yeah we've

00:37:05.500 --> 00:37:08.400
got adsb in the helicopter it just okay typically when

00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.100
you're flying thousand feet and below adsb ain't hitting a whole

00:37:11.100 --> 00:37:14.540
lot no one cares no yeah so although

00:37:14.540 --> 00:37:18.240
one time i was traveling cross country in my tiger and atc

00:37:18.240 --> 00:37:20.880
comes up and goes so we got an unmarked uh you know we got

00:37:20.880 --> 00:37:24.760
a target down there you're two o'clock low whatever and i

00:37:24.760 --> 00:37:27.560
was able to give give them oh well this is his tail

00:37:27.560 --> 00:37:31.600
number this is i see him there's all off

00:37:31.600 --> 00:37:34.280
the adsb so it was yeah they're like oh yeah

00:37:34.280 --> 00:37:37.220
well we're dealing with faa technology here i send

00:37:37.220 --> 00:37:41.820
it to my wife and my my mom so they can track me and stuff like that but then

00:37:41.820 --> 00:37:46.020
the last the last event we have planned before we put the old girl to bed for

00:37:46.020 --> 00:37:51.560
the summer is veterans day and i'm gonna fly it into where My kids go to high

00:37:51.560 --> 00:37:55.500
school for a Veterans Day ceremony at West Marshall High School.

00:37:56.200 --> 00:37:59.740
They don't know that yet. I haven't asked. I'm just telling them that I'm going to do it.

00:38:00.020 --> 00:38:08.100
And then we're going to take it over to the Iowa Veterans Nursing Home in Marshalltown is the plan.

00:38:08.680 --> 00:38:12.280
And land it over there and go see some vets. And then I want to fly it down

00:38:12.280 --> 00:38:15.960
to the Veterans Cemetery and Van Meter and do a flyover.

00:38:16.040 --> 00:38:21.280
It's kind of my plan for right now. So, yeah, 12, we've got 12 events planned,

00:38:21.380 --> 00:38:27.300
maybe even 13, which is, it's going to keep us busy. Me and my brother are going to be humping.

00:38:27.960 --> 00:38:29.820
Yeah, that's got a full schedule. Yeah.

00:38:31.164 --> 00:38:35.084
Yeah, cheap, too. Almost no cost to John's chief tax taxpayer.

00:38:37.864 --> 00:38:45.824
Well, yeah, so it's all private donation. And we need to get the word out about

00:38:45.824 --> 00:38:53.144
how we can spread the word and get some donations so you can keep this artifact flying.

00:38:53.404 --> 00:38:56.904
Yeah, so the Marine Corps Aviation Association gave us some money last year.

00:38:56.924 --> 00:38:58.524
I was going to reach out to them.

00:38:59.524 --> 00:39:03.084
I don't know if you've seen the Flying Leatherneck Museum that's being built

00:39:03.084 --> 00:39:08.404
in Elk and Escondido or Tustin.

00:39:08.744 --> 00:39:11.744
It used to be their building, so I'm going to ask them.

00:39:12.344 --> 00:39:15.204
Obviously, I'm going to reach out to Sikorsky Helicopters, which was bought

00:39:15.204 --> 00:39:19.824
by Lockheed Martin, and see if they're willing to help me keep this old girl flying.

00:39:22.144 --> 00:39:23.784
I'm not proud of...

00:39:24.655 --> 00:39:27.615
My my lack of knowledge of reaching out to people so

00:39:27.615 --> 00:39:30.555
if anybody's a professional fundraiser you know i i

00:39:30.555 --> 00:39:33.675
am willing and able to to take

00:39:33.675 --> 00:39:38.935
on any and duber i happen to know a couple guys that are going to the marine

00:39:38.935 --> 00:39:43.995
corps historical association black tie event on the 25th of april at the marine

00:39:43.995 --> 00:39:51.855
corps national foundation at the marine corps museum in quantico are they on this call with us,

00:39:52.795 --> 00:39:56.555
no not yet but we're we

00:39:56.555 --> 00:40:00.195
we need to take yeah actually they are those two

00:40:00.195 --> 00:40:03.435
guys are on the call oh they are on the call okay they're just not wearing black

00:40:03.435 --> 00:40:07.455
ties right now no those two guys are talking we're not we're not there you go

00:40:07.455 --> 00:40:13.355
yeah i'm picking up we're slow on the uptake but we got you but see this is

00:40:13.355 --> 00:40:17.435
the kind of thing we can spread at that event yeah because i'll get I'll get

00:40:17.435 --> 00:40:19.995
you some swag. I'll get you some business cards, whatever it takes.

00:40:20.295 --> 00:40:25.075
We probably need business cards or maybe a flyer. I'll just get you some doobers,

00:40:25.135 --> 00:40:28.255
man. We'll get some special doobers made up. We'll call it a day.

00:40:28.795 --> 00:40:31.815
Because this is Marine Corps history. Yeah.

00:40:32.295 --> 00:40:35.795
It is. In fact, they have, if you go to the Marine Corps Heritage Foundation

00:40:35.795 --> 00:40:38.395
website, they have an H-34.

00:40:39.355 --> 00:40:44.495
Yankee November 19th. Yeah. Yeah, 361 bird. My dad actually flew that for those

00:40:44.495 --> 00:40:45.755
guys when they were building it.

00:40:46.555 --> 00:40:50.035
Boy. Yeah. Cause my dad had a bunch of tests. He had a bunch of test time.

00:40:50.295 --> 00:40:54.555
So funny story when, when he started it up for the first time and you know,

00:40:54.655 --> 00:40:57.735
they were setting the rig and the tension on the cables and all that stuff.

00:40:57.855 --> 00:41:01.875
It was grossly out of rig and he took off,

00:41:02.015 --> 00:41:06.735
he took off and the helicopter just kind of took off on him and he had to undo

00:41:06.735 --> 00:41:10.275
his seatbelt and almost stand because the cyclic was, you know,

00:41:10.375 --> 00:41:12.975
coming way up. Oh shit. Yeah.

00:41:13.775 --> 00:41:16.735
Yeah. We took off, he took off kind of sideways and it wasn't planned,

00:41:16.735 --> 00:41:20.495
but, uh, you know, luckily they got, never do that again. Yeah.

00:41:23.291 --> 00:41:27.471
Yeah. Yes. That old, that old bird that's in the museum is really special.

00:41:27.751 --> 00:41:33.071
I mean, you see all the guys that get promoted or retire there inside the atrium.

00:41:33.251 --> 00:41:36.591
That's a very neat, it's a, it's sad that they couldn't keep flying it.

00:41:36.711 --> 00:41:41.871
The guy's name is Al Weiss that, that owned that aircraft and he flew it,

00:41:41.991 --> 00:41:43.731
flew it as much as he could and as long as he could.

00:41:43.831 --> 00:41:46.471
But, you know, he ran into the same issue that, that I'm kind of running into

00:41:46.471 --> 00:41:48.951
is just, you know, funding. It's not cheap.

00:41:49.771 --> 00:41:52.611
We we we we got to keep the ball rolling

00:41:52.611 --> 00:41:55.391
yeah you know you got to get the ball rolling you got to keep it

00:41:55.391 --> 00:41:58.231
rolling yeah and well and our website

00:41:58.231 --> 00:42:02.011
has a ton of information on it too if i can put a put a

00:42:02.011 --> 00:42:05.211
uh a plug in so it's yl dash yl

00:42:05.211 --> 00:42:08.111
dash three seven so yankee

00:42:08.111 --> 00:42:12.071
lima yl dash three seven dot org and

00:42:12.071 --> 00:42:15.471
we've got history on there we've got

00:42:15.471 --> 00:42:19.451
the history of the aircraft a bunch of pictures upcoming

00:42:19.451 --> 00:42:26.711
events there's contact information past events testimonials well let's take

00:42:26.711 --> 00:42:29.631
a minute and talk about the fallen ugly angels you know you heard me talk about

00:42:29.631 --> 00:42:37.211
the 33 guys that died in vietnam you want to talk about something that'll pull your heartstrings,

00:42:37.991 --> 00:42:39.971
lance corporal kenneth mcbeth.

00:42:42.111 --> 00:42:46.651
His name is on that plaque. He died in this helicopter.

00:42:48.131 --> 00:42:56.111
Oh, wow. His KIA incident has the BUE number 148783, which is YL-37's serial number.

00:42:56.571 --> 00:43:01.551
He died in that aircraft. And it is my distinct honor to fly it.

00:43:02.031 --> 00:43:08.351
And to fly it, you know, in his honor in the 33, you know, the 33 Marines that passed away.

00:43:08.511 --> 00:43:11.951
And to honor my dad. this is

00:43:11.951 --> 00:43:14.671
cool hang on before you do that let me let me jump in and tell

00:43:14.671 --> 00:43:19.531
people here this is cool so when you go to yl37 yl-37.org

00:43:19.531 --> 00:43:22.491
and you go to the fallen ugly angels it

00:43:22.491 --> 00:43:25.691
has it has them there but then i clicked on

00:43:25.691 --> 00:43:28.671
lance corporal mcbeth's picture and it

00:43:28.671 --> 00:43:32.211
takes you to the whole story yeah kim

00:43:32.211 --> 00:43:35.531
my wife did this my wife did she she

00:43:35.531 --> 00:43:38.371
organized all this and it's just i'm in awe every time

00:43:38.371 --> 00:43:41.531
i click around god bless her that's amazing work yeah

00:43:41.531 --> 00:43:45.451
very cool i'm sorry i interrupted uh yeah let's talk about your dad some more

00:43:45.451 --> 00:43:51.291
here yeah my dad flew this aircraft 148783 it's in his in his logbook red red

00:43:51.291 --> 00:43:56.731
time which is combat time 11 times he flew it about 7.8 hours and we got to

00:43:56.731 --> 00:43:58.391
get that updated because the the.

00:43:59.287 --> 00:44:03.207
The website is wrong. It doesn't have all the flight hours. But you can,

00:44:03.447 --> 00:44:07.007
there's a link in there where you can scroll through and see all the pilots.

00:44:07.467 --> 00:44:10.467
Yeah. You see Roger Cook, Rusty Sacks, Gunny.

00:44:11.067 --> 00:44:14.487
Yep. Yeah, Gunny's got a lot of flight time in it. Yeah.

00:44:15.327 --> 00:44:20.047
Jack Lodge, Ryan Hidd. This is awesome. Well, and we, so we,

00:44:20.307 --> 00:44:27.427
Kim did, my wife did a bunch of research to try and find surviving family of

00:44:27.427 --> 00:44:29.807
all these Marines that were KIA.

00:44:29.807 --> 00:44:33.067
And I've, you know, let's, so that top one there,

00:44:33.727 --> 00:44:37.387
first Lieutenant Anthony Kasuki, I had the honor of meeting his brother and

00:44:37.387 --> 00:44:42.887
his brother is writing his, his, his older brother's biography,

00:44:43.327 --> 00:44:48.307
you know, writing his story about how he crashed in unfortunate and really bad weather in Vietnam.

00:44:49.487 --> 00:44:55.667
But these, you know, you read through these KIA stories of, of all these guys and everything.

00:44:56.533 --> 00:45:01.093
It just brings things full circle. You know, February 4th, 1969 was the deadliest

00:45:01.093 --> 00:45:02.453
day in the Ugly Angel history.

00:45:02.933 --> 00:45:07.173
It was right before the squadron was getting ready to shut down.

00:45:09.173 --> 00:45:13.213
And they had a midair collision and killed eight Marines, unfortunately. Oh, man.

00:45:14.933 --> 00:45:21.613
Just absolutely, yeah. Do you know, I've got a question you probably don't know

00:45:21.613 --> 00:45:22.933
the answer to, but I have to ask it.

00:45:23.553 --> 00:45:28.393
Is, is he the pilot that was one eyes co-pilot that one I thought was dead?

00:45:29.053 --> 00:45:32.193
Cause he said that he thought he was dead and he died in the midair.

00:45:32.513 --> 00:45:36.393
I don't think so. Okay. I don't think so.

00:45:37.633 --> 00:45:41.953
Had to ask. Yeah. I'd have to ask Ben. Yeah. Ben's still kicking.

00:45:42.213 --> 00:45:45.533
Try to talk to him every now and again when I can. God bless him.

00:45:46.173 --> 00:45:50.213
What a, what an amazing show that was. A lot of fun. Oh yeah.

00:45:50.633 --> 00:45:54.293
Got a lot of stories and you know, it's, That's what put the hooks in me, right?

00:45:54.373 --> 00:45:57.353
Is listening to my dad and his buddies tell these stories. It's just,

00:45:57.513 --> 00:46:01.013
oh my gosh, how are these guys?

00:46:01.373 --> 00:46:04.013
It's him right in the middle in the picture that Styx has up right now, I think.

00:46:04.293 --> 00:46:08.133
Yeah, so that's Yankee November 19th. That's the helicopter that's in the museum,

00:46:08.133 --> 00:46:09.773
that one right there. Okay, all right.

00:46:11.125 --> 00:46:15.725
That's incredible, man, the things that they sacrificed and then never complained

00:46:15.725 --> 00:46:20.665
and, you know, came back without any fanfare.

00:46:20.845 --> 00:46:23.925
In fact, some hostility and, you

00:46:23.925 --> 00:46:28.585
know, sacrificed so much and people don't appreciate, didn't appreciate.

00:46:28.585 --> 00:46:35.085
I think people now more appreciate than they did back then, but he healed some of those wounds.

00:46:35.085 --> 00:46:44.525
Well, going to these events, to these reunions, we had a flight school instructor

00:46:44.525 --> 00:46:46.705
whose dad was an H-34 door gunner.

00:46:47.705 --> 00:46:52.105
He gave me a big donation, and we put him in the door. We put him in the helicopter.

00:46:52.345 --> 00:46:54.785
We've got an M-60, a demailed M-60.

00:46:55.305 --> 00:46:58.505
We put it in there and put a helmet on him. And I mean, you just,

00:46:58.585 --> 00:47:02.025
you look over at the guy while you're flying and that sight,

00:47:02.165 --> 00:47:05.925
the sights and the sounds and the views that he saw when he was 19 years old.

00:47:06.105 --> 00:47:09.405
And he's just got his eyes are teared, welled up. Yeah.

00:47:09.805 --> 00:47:13.145
Yeah. Cause you imagine what he experienced. You imagine what he experienced

00:47:13.145 --> 00:47:17.365
when he was a 19 year old crew chief pulling guys out, getting shot at.

00:47:18.255 --> 00:47:22.315
Spending all day flying that helicopter and then he gets back to base and guess what he's doing?

00:47:23.015 --> 00:47:28.755
He's patching holes. He's working on it. He's washing blood off the floor of his helicopter.

00:47:29.135 --> 00:47:34.335
Right. How do you heal those scars? How do you repay? How do you repay somebody that went through that?

00:47:34.955 --> 00:47:37.755
And that's, that's what we're trying to do is just give those guys,

00:47:37.955 --> 00:47:40.935
you know, not trying to take them back to the worst times of their life,

00:47:41.015 --> 00:47:44.895
but maybe the best time of their life when they, when they were 10 foot tall

00:47:44.895 --> 00:47:47.895
and bulletproof and literally bulletproof.

00:47:49.375 --> 00:47:55.175
We had another guy. We put it out on Facebook. Yeah, there's the M60. Look at that thing.

00:47:55.735 --> 00:47:59.275
I can tell you right now, I can't hold it up like Arnold Schwarzenegger did.

00:48:00.795 --> 00:48:03.895
It's that son of a gun. That's a hunk of metal. Yeah.

00:48:04.635 --> 00:48:08.035
Yeah. Well, the one he was holding up might have been a prop.

00:48:08.235 --> 00:48:12.055
I don't know. Yeah. You know, just saying. A foam prop, you know.

00:48:12.315 --> 00:48:14.815
Yeah. It might have been a little lighter than the real thing,

00:48:14.935 --> 00:48:16.115
but hey, maybe not. I don't know.

00:48:17.075 --> 00:48:21.875
Sorry, interrupted. No, you're fine. When we flew the helicopter to the moving

00:48:21.875 --> 00:48:28.135
Vietnam wall this last summer, I had a guy, a young guy reach out to me,

00:48:28.395 --> 00:48:32.835
works over at the Cedar Rapids airport, and he says, hey, my grandpa was a crew

00:48:32.835 --> 00:48:34.975
chief in this, and he used to tell stories.

00:48:35.595 --> 00:48:41.155
He's like, can I bring my dad over, his son, to come see it?

00:48:41.155 --> 00:48:46.735
And we had an old ugly angel crew chief, Ed Tappman, who's one of my,

00:48:46.775 --> 00:48:48.495
one of my good close friends.

00:48:48.695 --> 00:48:52.835
And he's another Southern country gentleman. He just, he woos my wife every

00:48:52.835 --> 00:48:54.775
time. Cause he's just a silver tongue devil.

00:48:56.375 --> 00:49:01.295
And, uh, you know, he's just says things like, Oh, good, good night, Irene.

00:49:01.315 --> 00:49:06.655
Or I can't even remember how he says it, but he was, we brought him along and

00:49:06.655 --> 00:49:10.135
he was showing these people, the helicopter telling stories.

00:49:11.155 --> 00:49:14.635
And I introduced this gentleman.

00:49:15.807 --> 00:49:21.507
To ed and ed was showing him what his dad would have done this is where your

00:49:21.507 --> 00:49:25.627
dad would have sat this is the maintenance he would have done this is how long

00:49:25.627 --> 00:49:26.887
his day would have been because,

00:49:27.687 --> 00:49:30.647
he he would have never known that you know he would have never known and the

00:49:30.647 --> 00:49:38.567
connection that ed was able to provide through that helicopter to his son and grandson i mean.

00:49:40.327 --> 00:49:44.947
Is there anything better i mean no no dude that's that's that's connecting dots

00:49:44.947 --> 00:49:49.447
and tying the bow Yeah, just rips your heart out of your chest, but it's also healing.

00:49:49.607 --> 00:49:53.447
It's healing because it fills in those blanks where it's like,

00:49:53.547 --> 00:49:55.987
well, my dad was gone for 13 months. Well, what the hell did he do?

00:49:56.687 --> 00:49:59.107
Now I know. Now I have an appreciation.

00:50:00.207 --> 00:50:05.567
Right. He probably didn't talk about it very much. Well, and that's most of

00:50:05.567 --> 00:50:10.847
the time my dad never talked about those things a whole lot unless he was with

00:50:10.847 --> 00:50:13.067
his brothers, unless he was with his guys.

00:50:13.627 --> 00:50:17.407
When we went to Pensacola this summer, I was with my buddies,

00:50:17.407 --> 00:50:21.327
with my pilots and my crew chiefs who I have such an unbelievable bond with,

00:50:21.527 --> 00:50:23.187
and we were telling stories.

00:50:23.187 --> 00:50:27.427
And my wife is sitting there just going, I never fucking heard that.

00:50:27.427 --> 00:50:31.107
I didn't know anything about this stuff. And I was like, honey,

00:50:31.187 --> 00:50:35.867
it's not personal. It's just I don't have that connection with you,

00:50:35.887 --> 00:50:38.287
but this connection brings that out.

00:50:39.187 --> 00:50:41.227
Yeah. You know? Yeah.

00:50:42.067 --> 00:50:47.927
Absolutely. I had it up there a minute ago, but Jeff Carr, thank you, sir. Cobra.

00:50:48.687 --> 00:50:52.227
Yeah. That's Cobra 3-1. Thanks, Jeff.

00:50:54.507 --> 00:50:59.647
He's a Vietnam Army Cobra pilot. Awesome. Thanks, Jeff. I just saw your donation

00:50:59.647 --> 00:51:00.847
come through. Much appreciated.

00:51:02.247 --> 00:51:05.547
Much appreciated. He was a guest owner.

00:51:05.767 --> 00:51:10.367
I don't know his number off the top of my head, but it was an awesome interview.

00:51:10.367 --> 00:51:13.307
And he's uh he's my cigar smoking buddy

00:51:13.307 --> 00:51:16.107
now right now i got my i've got

00:51:16.107 --> 00:51:19.107
my computer sitting on my humidor right now he went he went

00:51:19.107 --> 00:51:23.887
for his 55 year follow-up yeah but

00:51:23.887 --> 00:51:26.967
uh he was minding his own business flying his helicopter and

00:51:26.967 --> 00:51:30.487
body parts flying around in his cockpit yeah

00:51:30.487 --> 00:51:35.267
those body parts of those oh oh yeah i

00:51:35.267 --> 00:51:38.167
know that guy well do you do you live in

00:51:38.167 --> 00:51:43.147
a in a neighborhood fig or do you have acres i i i live in a neighborhood that

00:51:43.147 --> 00:51:48.927
everybody has uh a big big lots i live on six acres big enough to land a helicopter

00:51:48.927 --> 00:51:54.927
i was thinking that and all i need all i need all i need is a lot long how much

00:51:54.927 --> 00:51:58.127
room i got a lot of trees i planted a lot of trees yeah,

00:51:58.947 --> 00:52:02.807
Do you like those trees? I'm at the end of a cul-de-sac.

00:52:03.487 --> 00:52:06.567
Oh, perfect. Could you put it down in the cul-de-sac? Absolutely.

00:52:06.567 --> 00:52:07.727
I could do anything once.

00:52:08.147 --> 00:52:13.347
It's probably a terrible idea, but you could do anything once. Yes.

00:52:14.027 --> 00:52:17.567
Well, give me your lat long anyway. On our way home, our way back here,

00:52:17.627 --> 00:52:18.747
maybe we can fly by your place.

00:52:19.207 --> 00:52:22.727
We need to get you guys either in the aircraft or around this thing.

00:52:23.307 --> 00:52:27.227
Well, I've technically been in it because I climbed in it at the air show.

00:52:28.127 --> 00:52:31.887
You know, read the plaque, threw some money in the bucket, bought a T-shirt.

00:52:32.107 --> 00:52:34.727
It was hotter than Hades. And I don't remember the guy's name,

00:52:34.727 --> 00:52:36.547
but he was the guy that flew it up there from Oklahoma.

00:52:36.807 --> 00:52:39.627
Yeah, either Jesse or Mike Schneider. Yeah.

00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:44.379
And I thought that, you know, what was, was cool. I was drawn to it because

00:52:44.379 --> 00:52:47.859
I knew it was there and I, and I knew it was from your dad's old squadron.

00:52:48.579 --> 00:52:52.359
And this was after we had talked to you. So like, Oh, okay. I got to go see

00:52:52.359 --> 00:52:54.719
this thing. Right. Yeah. And that's what got me down there.

00:52:55.079 --> 00:52:58.599
I drug my, my poor daughter with me. It was like 115 degrees that day on the

00:52:58.599 --> 00:53:02.799
ramp, you know, and I want to stand there talk. She was leaking out of every pore, you know?

00:53:03.879 --> 00:53:07.439
So I don't know, but I did, but I mean, I, I never saw it running.

00:53:07.439 --> 00:53:08.679
And it was just sitting there static.

00:53:09.159 --> 00:53:12.599
It had a lot of people around it. Wanted to, you know, smell it and touch it.

00:53:12.739 --> 00:53:14.379
Sure. It was, it's pretty awesome.

00:53:15.199 --> 00:53:18.799
So your brother says he owns a chainsaw. You can clear an LZ there.

00:53:19.219 --> 00:53:20.899
There you go. There you go.

00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:26.099
Yeah, this, this, this whole endeavor is just about legacy, right?

00:53:26.339 --> 00:53:30.479
It's, it's honoring those 33. Yeah.

00:53:31.283 --> 00:53:34.903
Honoring my dad honoring my old squadron and then

00:53:34.903 --> 00:53:38.183
and then you know figured out a way to pass this on yeah

00:53:38.183 --> 00:53:42.683
i would think sikorsky would want to throw some serious money at this just for

00:53:42.683 --> 00:53:48.043
the for the goodwill and hey look you know we've got a we've got a 64 year old

00:53:48.043 --> 00:53:52.823
helicopter that's still going it's been shot up and it's it's just going it's

00:53:52.823 --> 00:53:56.323
it's what we make quality stuff sure you,

00:53:57.283 --> 00:54:00.523
If old Igor was still alive, you know, he'd be flipping some,

00:54:00.523 --> 00:54:02.743
flipping some Benjamins at us. Right.

00:54:03.563 --> 00:54:07.583
Absolutely. But it's cool. I had a chance to fly my, my kids.

00:54:08.223 --> 00:54:11.523
I had my granddaughter in this. I mean, you want to talk about,

00:54:11.683 --> 00:54:14.323
so my, my father's great grandkid.

00:54:14.923 --> 00:54:21.583
So man. That's nice. Are you able to offer rides to others for a fee? Like I know.

00:54:22.163 --> 00:54:24.483
We have. Yeah, we have.

00:54:26.283 --> 00:54:29.363
Being experimental we got to be careful what we do everybody's got to be obviously

00:54:29.363 --> 00:54:35.183
in a seat belt and all that stuff but we make them sign a waiver and you know it's a zero it's a zero,

00:54:35.783 --> 00:54:41.823
zero fail mission i have to fly this very conservatively very this is grandpa's

00:54:41.823 --> 00:54:45.903
cadillac you know what i mean i'm not i'm not gripping and ripping we're flying

00:54:45.903 --> 00:54:50.443
smart we're we're using crew resource management to the next level.

00:54:51.383 --> 00:54:55.543
Me and my brothers, we'll talk through every decision and we will,

00:54:55.583 --> 00:54:58.303
you know, we'll have somebody on the ground.

00:54:58.523 --> 00:55:00.683
We'll have a fire truck on the ground in the next extent possible.

00:55:01.023 --> 00:55:04.183
We'll make sure the LZ is clear, a good comms into the wind,

00:55:04.983 --> 00:55:06.583
no loose things flying around.

00:55:06.843 --> 00:55:10.043
You know, we just got to be very, very smart. And that's, that's going to be

00:55:10.043 --> 00:55:12.943
our goal is to do this as long as possible.

00:55:13.503 --> 00:55:16.703
Well, two things. I think I'm wondering if something like the Collins Foundation

00:55:16.703 --> 00:55:20.363
might be worth talking to to see if they would bring you into their fold i don't

00:55:20.363 --> 00:55:24.263
know to help because i don't know how they do it what is that what is that well

00:55:24.263 --> 00:55:29.403
i know they have a b24 i think they're that was their b17 that crashed in connecticut

00:55:29.403 --> 00:55:32.323
a couple years ago oh yeah they've got a 24 and a 25.

00:55:33.704 --> 00:55:38.504
And I got a ride on there 24. I just happened to run into one of the guys who was at my airline.

00:55:38.984 --> 00:55:44.284
We wandered into each other in a, not knowing each other in the crew room or

00:55:44.284 --> 00:55:46.584
not the crew room. What do they call it? The big first class lounge.

00:55:46.704 --> 00:55:49.304
I was going to Europe. He and his wife were coming back from Europe.

00:55:49.624 --> 00:55:53.724
I'm like, there's nowhere to sit lady. Do you mind if I sit here? How many of you? Just me.

00:55:54.024 --> 00:55:56.224
Yeah. Sit down. My husband's at the bar getting something to drink.

00:55:56.364 --> 00:55:58.524
You'll be right back. Oh, so you made her get up so you could take her chairs.

00:55:58.924 --> 00:56:01.524
Oh, well done. Well done. Well done. Yeah.

00:56:02.084 --> 00:56:04.424
So we get chatting and, you know, what are you, what are you doing?

00:56:04.424 --> 00:56:07.904
I'm going to Europe to fly, pick up an airplane and fly. And what are you doing?

00:56:07.904 --> 00:56:10.004
Oh, we're coming home from vacation. And,

00:56:10.668 --> 00:56:14.348
He says, well, what do you do? I said, well, I have a bead window here.

00:56:14.408 --> 00:56:16.488
I go, well, I fly for FedEx. He goes, oh.

00:56:17.168 --> 00:56:20.208
He looks at his wife and goes, small world, huh? And I'm thinking he's a ramp

00:56:20.208 --> 00:56:22.968
agent, a courier or something like that. Sure.

00:56:23.548 --> 00:56:26.848
Bag man. What do you do? He goes, yeah, I fly for FedEx. Really?

00:56:28.348 --> 00:56:31.468
And two weeks later, he happened to be in Manchester, New Hampshire,

00:56:31.968 --> 00:56:35.268
and took my son out of school. We wandered over and got a ride on a B-24.

00:56:36.668 --> 00:56:42.028
Liberator. Yeah. They charge $400 for, I don't know, like a 15-minute ride.

00:56:42.308 --> 00:56:46.668
Yeah. And so, which is, you know, yeah.

00:56:47.228 --> 00:56:51.008
For $400, I'll let you sit in the co-pilot seat. Yeah. Right. There you go.

00:56:53.648 --> 00:56:55.948
Not going to start it or anything, but let you sit there. No,

00:56:55.968 --> 00:56:58.988
I was just going to let you sit there. I didn't say anything about start. Yeah.

00:56:59.768 --> 00:57:03.728
So, thinking of which, I think Sticks is trying to find a way to make his way

00:57:03.728 --> 00:57:08.728
out there and do that. He's got some rotor time, so I think he's jonesing to

00:57:08.728 --> 00:57:11.188
just, you know, sit in that seat, too.

00:57:11.808 --> 00:57:16.448
Yeah. Well, flying a helicopter mechanically, regardless of what machine it

00:57:16.448 --> 00:57:17.948
is, is for the most part the same.

00:57:17.988 --> 00:57:23.708
But the thing that will humble you with this helicopter is just the RPM control.

00:57:24.188 --> 00:57:29.368
The fact that you are controlling the rotor speed and the engine speed. It's all you.

00:57:29.668 --> 00:57:32.408
And if you get behind it, she'll bite you.

00:57:32.968 --> 00:57:36.488
Yeah. And modern aircraft, you don't have to necessarily worry about that as

00:57:36.488 --> 00:57:40.948
much. Okay. So it takes a few weeks to become friends with her.

00:57:41.748 --> 00:57:44.428
Yeah. I mean, it's the same thing. You know, trees, you push it forward,

00:57:44.528 --> 00:57:48.728
trees get big. You pull it back, trees get small. But yeah.

00:57:49.608 --> 00:57:54.128
Something also unique about this helicopter is it's made out of magnesium.

00:57:55.328 --> 00:57:58.148
Yeah. Flash bulb. It's essentially a flying flash bulb.

00:57:58.348 --> 00:58:05.068
And that was for weight savings? and I don't,

00:58:05.807 --> 00:58:09.407
I'm probably saying this incorrectly, but, you know, we were building a lot

00:58:09.407 --> 00:58:12.887
of airplanes back then. So aluminum was probably pretty damn hard to come by.

00:58:13.727 --> 00:58:16.727
Or maybe we didn't even have the technology to make aluminum then,

00:58:16.887 --> 00:58:22.227
you know, because when you look at fabric, not long before that was what they

00:58:22.227 --> 00:58:23.867
built things out of, you know? Yeah.

00:58:24.347 --> 00:58:27.047
Well, there's our show title. It's a flying flashbulb.

00:58:28.967 --> 00:58:34.327
Accurate. Accurate. Oh, man. You know, speaking of money, though,

00:58:34.407 --> 00:58:38.967
we need to take just a moment here and thank Derek Combs over at DC Artworks

00:58:38.967 --> 00:58:41.667
for helping us bring this show to you, everybody.

00:58:41.887 --> 00:58:45.867
So let's do that and then finish talking some more about this wonderful project

00:58:45.867 --> 00:58:47.987
that you're doing, Duber. Awesome.

00:58:49.427 --> 00:58:53.507
So there I was trying to explain to someone why the stuff on my wall matters.

00:58:53.627 --> 00:58:57.667
It's not just decoration. It's identity, history, stories.

00:58:57.947 --> 00:59:01.207
Then I realized most people don't even know what's possible until they actually

00:59:01.207 --> 00:59:04.347
get to see it. That's where DCartworks.net comes in.

00:59:04.527 --> 00:59:07.547
If you've got a wall in your office, your hangar, your shop,

00:59:07.647 --> 00:59:12.227
your bar that feels unfinished, go take a look at DCartworks.net.

00:59:12.427 --> 00:59:17.867
This is a veteran-owned shop run by Derek Combs, and what he does is take steel

00:59:17.867 --> 00:59:20.887
and turn it into something that actually means something.

00:59:21.287 --> 00:59:25.007
Not mass-produced decor, not something you scroll past.

00:59:25.207 --> 00:59:29.347
These are pieces that make people stop and ask questions. Everything starts

00:59:29.347 --> 00:59:33.227
as precision laser-cut steel, then gets hand-finished.

00:59:33.447 --> 00:59:37.727
The result is clean, durable, and built to last. But more importantly,

00:59:38.147 --> 00:59:40.447
it looks like it belongs somewhere important.

00:59:40.707 --> 00:59:42.787
And here's the part most people miss.

00:59:43.527 --> 00:59:45.247
What you see on the website is

00:59:45.247 --> 00:59:51.107
just a starting point. About 95% of what DC Artworks does is custom work.

00:59:51.387 --> 00:59:56.447
Squadron logos, call signs, aircraft silhouettes, unit gifts.

00:59:57.164 --> 01:00:02.784
Business branding, personal pieces, things you literally cannot buy anywhere

01:00:02.784 --> 01:00:05.204
else because they don't exist anywhere else.

01:00:05.344 --> 01:00:09.504
And then someone has that idea and reaches out to Derek. That's the move.

01:00:09.804 --> 01:00:12.104
Don't just scroll the site and think, that's cool.

01:00:12.484 --> 01:00:15.844
Scroll the site and think, what would mine look like?

01:00:16.084 --> 01:00:20.664
Because once you start that conversation with Derek, you very quickly realize

01:00:20.664 --> 01:00:22.464
how many directions this can go.

01:00:23.104 --> 01:00:26.324
Materials, finishes, size, layout. he'll

01:00:26.324 --> 01:00:29.264
walk you through what works and what doesn't and what's

01:00:29.264 --> 01:00:32.284
going to look right on your wall and that's when

01:00:32.284 --> 01:00:35.564
it clicks you're not buying something off the shelf you're

01:00:35.564 --> 01:00:40.004
creating something that's yours I've got a set of naval aviator wings from him

01:00:40.004 --> 01:00:45.124
that are two feet across and I can tell you this nobody ignores them they stop

01:00:45.124 --> 01:00:50.644
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So, there I was, aging like milk in the back of a C-130.

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Fig. I never cared about skin care.

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didn't expect to care, and honestly, I didn't expect to like anything in that category.

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Well, yeah, you're not exactly the target demographic, I suppose.

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It's just easy to do, to follow their system.

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No, and that's the point. It fits even if you're not that guy.

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What got my attention though was the science. They're focused on the senescent

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Nobody's reversing 20 years of aging overnight, or in my case,

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40 years. You know, it's just not going to be a quick fix.

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So we can tell cool stories like this, too. This is amazing.

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When I first heard you were buying this thing, I was like,

01:03:50.350 --> 01:03:57.170
Man, that's. It's badass. It is badass. Cutsie move, man. Cutsiest move I ever saw.

01:03:57.710 --> 01:04:01.490
God bless you. I mean, this takes real dedication. This is not something you

01:04:01.490 --> 01:04:04.590
just undertake for the fun of it. It takes real heart.

01:04:04.830 --> 01:04:07.990
And clearly, you were moved by these folks who were mentors.

01:04:08.530 --> 01:04:12.570
We got to get DC Artworks to make a. All right.

01:04:14.130 --> 01:04:20.910
An Ugly Angels. HMH 362. HMH 362. Hell yeah. Emblem for you.

01:04:23.290 --> 01:04:26.250
Hey, can I share a couple of pictures real quick? Oh, hell yes, you would.

01:04:27.950 --> 01:04:33.330
How do I do that? If you want to text them to me, or you may be able,

01:04:33.410 --> 01:04:34.470
yeah, you can share the screen.

01:04:34.650 --> 01:04:37.150
You should be able to share the screen. Just be sure not to put your social

01:04:37.150 --> 01:04:38.730
security number up there or your passwords.

01:04:41.510 --> 01:04:44.450
It just gives me the option to share which one. Let's see here.

01:04:44.530 --> 01:04:46.190
It should be at the bottom. So, yeah.

01:04:47.490 --> 01:04:50.090
Yeah, there we go. Here we go. Window.

01:04:52.610 --> 01:04:57.910
So one of these i wanted to show you this last summer we flew let me know when

01:04:57.910 --> 01:05:03.350
you can see it there it is yeah we flew by my dad's need to add i don't know

01:05:03.350 --> 01:05:04.710
if i add yeah there we go there it is,

01:05:06.510 --> 01:05:14.070
oh that's so we flew the helicopter by my dad's headstone oh that is cool that

01:05:14.070 --> 01:05:16.390
is a great picture that is fantastic,

01:05:16.950 --> 01:05:25.430
if you email me this as well I will put it in the blog post for the show I think you have it perfect,

01:05:26.970 --> 01:05:30.610
I got your notes but I didn't look at the pictures yet so,

01:05:32.940 --> 01:05:36.780
Which for a Marine, you know, I should have looked at the pictures first and

01:05:36.780 --> 01:05:39.360
then tried to. I love pictures. The words are scary.

01:05:43.380 --> 01:05:47.640
This one right here is kind of cool. This was our last reunion when they flew

01:05:47.640 --> 01:05:50.520
the current day VMM 362 squadron.

01:05:51.700 --> 01:05:54.740
May have to pop it up there. Yep. There we go.

01:05:56.360 --> 01:05:59.440
So there we put YL-37 next to a V-22.

01:06:00.680 --> 01:06:06.140
I've seen it. Oh, I didn't. There we go. now we're oh yeah

01:06:06.140 --> 01:06:09.040
how about face-to-face badass picture man

01:06:09.040 --> 01:06:11.840
so and that's slick where what where

01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:16.700
was that picture taken duber so so that was in oklahoma that was where the aircraft

01:06:16.700 --> 01:06:24.580
currently resides and i know i know okay yeah wow that's a great picture yeah

01:06:24.580 --> 01:06:31.040
great picture and then i got one more I want to share if I can find it.

01:06:32.260 --> 01:06:34.640
What are those rotor blades made out of?

01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:43.040
So they've got an aluminum spar, a hollow spar, and then it's charged with nitrogen

01:06:43.040 --> 01:06:44.820
so then you can tell if there's a hole in it.

01:06:45.180 --> 01:06:51.840
It's got a blade BIM indicator, so it's filled with nitrogen and then just an

01:06:51.840 --> 01:06:57.440
aluminum covering with honeycomb inside of it. Okay.

01:06:59.308 --> 01:07:02.488
Lightweight weighs about 210 pounds 25 foot

01:07:02.488 --> 01:07:05.488
long that's crazy but looking

01:07:05.488 --> 01:07:10.208
at them they sang pretty good so it's a little so your your rotor diameter is

01:07:10.208 --> 01:07:18.648
50 52 feet or something 56 56 56 yeah and there's my kids oh that's awesome

01:07:18.648 --> 01:07:24.688
and then eight that's badass yep yeah i don't have a photo of my,

01:07:25.168 --> 01:07:28.748
granddaughter in it, but I got a video of her and she's just grinning air to

01:07:28.748 --> 01:07:30.188
hear just her and her cousins.

01:07:30.988 --> 01:07:33.208
Man, loving it. Living it up. Very cool.

01:07:34.928 --> 01:07:40.088
That's the story, guys. Any help you can give? We got to make sure you keep

01:07:40.088 --> 01:07:47.288
this legacy going for a decade and then help you pass it on to the next. Yeah.

01:07:49.288 --> 01:07:52.328
Absolutely. She's old, but she's got a lot of life left in her.

01:07:52.608 --> 01:07:54.268
She's got a lot of life left in her.

01:07:55.088 --> 01:07:58.028
You said you've got three motors now that you can cannibalize?

01:07:59.248 --> 01:08:03.688
Yeah, I've got three motors. Believe it or not, I've got 23 main rotor blades,

01:08:03.848 --> 01:08:06.308
but only about four or five of them have good paperwork.

01:08:07.608 --> 01:08:13.168
I've got just stacks and stacks of old parts, generators, alternators,

01:08:13.948 --> 01:08:18.628
magnetos, spark plugs, condensers, hydraulic lines, hydraulic pumps,

01:08:18.828 --> 01:08:20.948
rotor heads, dampers, trunnions,

01:08:21.508 --> 01:08:25.508
pitch change rods, tail rotor blades, terror gearboxes intermediate gearboxes

01:08:25.508 --> 01:08:30.128
terror disconnects a lot of parts parts is parts parts is parts.

01:08:32.067 --> 01:08:34.947
There's a lot. There's a lot. It's a lot.

01:08:35.107 --> 01:08:40.387
I know it's, you know, it does seem like a, it seems like a monumental task.

01:08:40.607 --> 01:08:45.787
It seems like it's almost overwhelming, but I got a real good feeling about this, dude.

01:08:46.567 --> 01:08:49.847
What choice do I have? How do you pass something like this? You don't have a

01:08:49.847 --> 01:08:51.287
choice. You're going to do this.

01:08:52.467 --> 01:08:56.447
I'd never, I'd never be able to forgive myself. I've been blessed with just

01:08:56.447 --> 01:09:01.527
an amazing opportunity and I'm going to do everything in my power to continue to rock and roll this.

01:09:02.567 --> 01:09:09.227
And thankfully, my brothers have committed to basically canceling their personal lives and helping me.

01:09:09.707 --> 01:09:12.007
That's pretty bad. Personal lives are overrated.

01:09:13.267 --> 01:09:19.487
Yeah. My silent partner who will remain nameless is going to fund every bit

01:09:19.487 --> 01:09:20.627
of this as she can help, too.

01:09:20.807 --> 01:09:23.427
That's awesome. Oh, mom. Yes. You know.

01:09:24.207 --> 01:09:30.507
Where are you in the hierarchy of all the brothers and sisters as far as— I'm

01:09:30.507 --> 01:09:31.827
the baby. You're the baby. I was the accident.

01:09:32.507 --> 01:09:36.687
Yeah yeah i'm seven years between me and my next oldest brother mom you don't

01:09:36.687 --> 01:09:41.887
have a kid at 42 you don't do that well you were you were the gift that just

01:09:41.887 --> 01:09:45.967
keeps on giving and and just here you are i went past the catcher i went past

01:09:45.967 --> 01:09:47.267
the catcher all the way to the backstop,

01:09:48.227 --> 01:09:51.107
i love that that is

01:09:51.107 --> 01:09:53.967
that is really great and i'm not you know what i'm first

01:09:53.967 --> 01:09:57.567
of all i wasn't shocked when i heard you got

01:09:57.567 --> 01:10:00.507
that helicopter in in the back of my mind i

01:10:00.507 --> 01:10:03.827
almost i almost envisioned that was happening anyway isn't

01:10:03.827 --> 01:10:07.167
that weird yeah i wasn't shocked at all well neither was

01:10:07.167 --> 01:10:14.107
i i was like he's nuts but no i mean in a way i think it was you have to be

01:10:14.107 --> 01:10:18.167
a little crazy to take on this this task it's monumental it really is that and

01:10:18.167 --> 01:10:24.547
you have a connection to that and it's it well It's a deep connection. It's not a...

01:10:26.387 --> 01:10:32.047
Yeah. And that's what I have to, that's what I have to uphold. Right. That's yeah.

01:10:32.667 --> 01:10:36.327
It's not a cross that I have to bear. It's a cross. I get to bear.

01:10:36.367 --> 01:10:39.707
There you go. It's the best way that I can describe it. You know what I mean? That's awesome, dude.

01:10:40.827 --> 01:10:45.367
Yeah. That was a great way of looking at it. And, and I'm proud of you.

01:10:45.507 --> 01:10:50.867
Cause I mean, I, I mean, I, I've seen, I've seen the helicopter up close and

01:10:50.867 --> 01:10:53.907
it moved me and knowing that you're going to keep it flying.

01:10:54.327 --> 01:10:55.967
It's, it's really bad-ass.

01:10:56.467 --> 01:11:02.287
I really, I want to do everything I can to help you make this an awesome experience.

01:11:03.747 --> 01:11:07.067
Well, the owner of FedEx, if I remember correctly, was a Marine, right?

01:11:08.247 --> 01:11:11.927
Yeah, and sadly, he has crossed the Rainbow Bridge.

01:11:13.047 --> 01:11:16.627
A little less than a year ago now, but yeah, he was. Was it?

01:11:16.767 --> 01:11:19.587
Okay, I didn't realize it was that long. But, no, I think, I'll see if I can

01:11:19.587 --> 01:11:20.587
reach out to one other guy.

01:11:20.807 --> 01:11:25.487
He's long since retired, but he gave me my IOE in the DC-10,

01:11:25.487 --> 01:11:27.687
And he was an H-34 pilot in Vietnam.

01:11:28.947 --> 01:11:31.887
You know what we need is a tech guy. By the name of Frank Sato.

01:11:32.147 --> 01:11:32.927
Frank, if you're listening.

01:11:34.467 --> 01:11:38.527
We need a tech person who's made more money than he'll ever know what to do

01:11:38.527 --> 01:11:44.147
with. Who has a father, uncle, grandfather that was a Vietnam veteran.

01:11:44.247 --> 01:11:51.607
And he could make a donation to your 5013C that would keep it running into perpetuity.

01:11:51.607 --> 01:11:54.687
And this person would never even know the money's gone.

01:11:55.941 --> 01:11:58.821
That's what we need. Yeah, right. That's the friend.

01:11:58.961 --> 01:12:02.641
That's the friend I would like to have. So everybody put your feelers out and

01:12:02.641 --> 01:12:04.821
find that person because that person's out there.

01:12:04.921 --> 01:12:07.541
I guarantee it. Absolutely. I guarantee it.

01:12:08.501 --> 01:12:11.601
Yeah, I got a doobler with your name on it. And listen, there's not too many

01:12:11.601 --> 01:12:16.421
of them left. I mean, they're getting shorter and shorter to come by. Yeah. Right? Yeah.

01:12:17.341 --> 01:12:20.181
Yeah, for sure. For sure. And you had so many.

01:12:21.401 --> 01:12:22.481
That's impressive, too.

01:12:23.801 --> 01:12:26.581
Yeah. Yeah, no kidding. All right. well you know what now

01:12:26.581 --> 01:12:29.701
we got to tell people that haven't listened to show 61 what

01:12:29.701 --> 01:12:35.141
is a duber and how'd you get the call sign yeah story blue

01:12:35.141 --> 01:12:39.741
angels blue angels came to hawaii for the first time in about 20 years in my

01:12:39.741 --> 01:12:45.901
when i was out in hawaii with hmh 362 and co and the exo were like listen buy

01:12:45.901 --> 01:12:49.861
everything you can get your hands on hats shirts koozies whatever and,

01:12:51.017 --> 01:12:54.577
I had a vendor come up to me because I bought a bunch of crap from him.

01:12:54.637 --> 01:12:56.797
And he's like, man, you got to try out these things called doobers.

01:12:56.937 --> 01:12:58.797
And I'm like, what the fuck is a doober?

01:13:00.337 --> 01:13:04.097
And it's just, you know, it's this little neoprene sleeve that goes on the back

01:13:04.097 --> 01:13:06.297
of that. I don't know if it's even got instructions. Look at that.

01:13:07.337 --> 01:13:09.877
It tells you how to put the damn thing on. It's probably a little bit out of

01:13:09.877 --> 01:13:11.797
focus. It goes on the strap on the back of your trucker's hat.

01:13:11.937 --> 01:13:12.697
Yeah, it goes on the back.

01:13:12.897 --> 01:13:17.157
What's it do for you? What's it actually do for you on the back of your? Absolutely nothing.

01:13:17.577 --> 01:13:20.737
Absolutely nothing. It puts a decoration on the back of your grape.

01:13:22.017 --> 01:13:26.677
It just, it makes you look like a NASCAR, you know, he'd like to put a sticker on everything.

01:13:27.037 --> 01:13:33.137
So I, I, I told the guy I'd, you know, I'd buy a gross of them and I was expecting that to be like 144.

01:13:33.237 --> 01:13:37.297
And we got like fucking 12,000 of them and we didn't, we didn't fucking sell any of them.

01:13:37.617 --> 01:13:40.757
We had 14,400. It was so bad. Yeah. A gross of grosses.

01:13:43.637 --> 01:13:48.317
So the staff NCOs, I was pitching what we were going to sell and the staff NCOs

01:13:48.317 --> 01:13:50.917
were like, Doober, that's your call. Oh boy.

01:13:51.477 --> 01:13:56.977
So it stuck that's awesome that's awesome yeah it could have been a lot worse

01:13:56.977 --> 01:14:02.217
right could have been a lot it should have been a lot worse right yeah well

01:14:02.217 --> 01:14:06.897
it's a great story it's a great call sign you're a fine american a good marine

01:14:06.897 --> 01:14:10.997
and and now you you have very you have a very expensive,

01:14:11.737 --> 01:14:13.417
it's not even a hobby it's a passion,

01:14:14.667 --> 01:14:17.727
Yeah, for sure. We're going to get it done.

01:14:17.987 --> 01:14:22.767
You know, it's the owner, Gerald, everybody asked him, you know,

01:14:22.847 --> 01:14:24.467
what's your plan for this aircraft

01:14:24.467 --> 01:14:27.047
when you, you know, you get up there in age or when you're retired.

01:14:27.047 --> 01:14:34.287
And he, he told everybody that he had a plan and then he asked my dad. Yeah.

01:14:35.287 --> 01:14:41.827
Well, and, and my, my dad never told me this, but Gerald told my dad,

01:14:41.947 --> 01:14:42.747
I'm going to give it to Nick.

01:14:42.747 --> 01:14:50.527
Wow so and i and i never heard that from him i actually heard it from ed tapman

01:14:50.527 --> 01:14:57.587
from from one of the old crew chiefs he he's the one who told me that and when

01:14:57.587 --> 01:14:59.807
he told me i just completely,

01:15:00.867 --> 01:15:06.967
broke down i get it that's awesome just turned into putty get it.

01:15:08.387 --> 01:15:11.547
Totally get it yeah it's gonna be fun it's

01:15:11.547 --> 01:15:14.507
gonna be neat i'm excited for it i'm excited i

01:15:14.507 --> 01:15:17.787
can't wait to see it flying right i you

01:15:17.787 --> 01:15:20.627
know that's one helicopter i might be

01:15:20.627 --> 01:15:26.287
willing to get in well i'm not gonna say that but i might you know it's because

01:15:26.287 --> 01:15:31.727
it's a big damn deal and you know and i love the backstory and i love the fact

01:15:31.727 --> 01:15:36.567
that you're you know you're it now duper that's pretty damn cool we we need

01:15:36.567 --> 01:15:39.787
to find you a shit ton of money that's that's just all there is to it,

01:15:40.987 --> 01:15:44.367
shit ton is about how much it's going to take is what we that is a technical

01:15:44.367 --> 01:15:49.727
measurement this week yeah crap ton crap ton shit ton somewhere in the middle

01:15:49.727 --> 01:15:58.027
so but thinking you talked about it earlier thinking of technical details i went and asked,

01:15:59.039 --> 01:16:06.379
I don't know, it was Gemini or some AI. Just how many liters is 1,800 and change cubic inches?

01:16:06.579 --> 01:16:08.999
That's a 29-liter engine.

01:16:09.979 --> 01:16:13.999
Those pistons have got to be massive. They've got to weigh as much as the damn

01:16:13.999 --> 01:16:16.779
rotor blades. You said coffee can.

01:16:18.159 --> 01:16:21.799
Yeah, I've got one sitting out here. It would take me a minute to find it.

01:16:22.559 --> 01:16:25.659
Yeah. Oh, man. Matter of fact, give me two seconds. Give me two seconds.

01:16:25.859 --> 01:16:29.679
We can do that. Fig and I can vamp for all of that. you know yeah absolutely

01:16:29.679 --> 01:16:33.759
he's gonna grab one of those holy smokes yeah that thing's got to be you know

01:16:33.759 --> 01:16:37.399
like you say big rounds of coffee again if not bigger and there's nine of them

01:16:37.399 --> 01:16:43.819
no dude he's only a couple hours from me i i i gotta i gotta find an afternoon and drive up there and,

01:16:44.539 --> 01:16:47.479
see him and look at the operation take some pictures

01:16:47.479 --> 01:16:50.199
smell it again you know when you

01:16:50.199 --> 01:16:52.859
smell when you get in there when you get near you start smelling it you

01:16:52.859 --> 01:16:56.339
know it's it smells it's the real deal right yeah you

01:16:56.339 --> 01:16:59.419
see the patches you know inside the patches

01:16:59.419 --> 01:17:02.439
where the bullets went through at one point i mean

01:17:02.439 --> 01:17:05.399
dude it's a it's a it's a it's a war artifact

01:17:05.399 --> 01:17:08.079
look at that yeah what the hell is he oh he's got

01:17:08.079 --> 01:17:11.199
an m60 well he

01:17:11.199 --> 01:17:14.279
just killed somebody what what

01:17:14.279 --> 01:17:16.959
what duper what what the hell oh you

01:17:16.959 --> 01:17:20.399
can't hear me i can't hear yourself but uh

01:17:20.399 --> 01:17:23.099
oh my god all right so this is

01:17:23.099 --> 01:17:25.919
the drive shaft right there that i was telling you that goes

01:17:25.919 --> 01:17:28.739
in between that goes in between the engine

01:17:28.739 --> 01:17:34.699
and the oh my gosh that appears to be six feet long or so maybe seven so that's

01:17:34.699 --> 01:17:40.659
that's what hooks up to the clutch and goes and it's about so if people that

01:17:40.659 --> 01:17:43.299
are just listening you're going to want to go to the to our youtube channel

01:17:43.299 --> 01:17:47.739
and look for it is it six feet long how long is it it's about five.

01:17:49.182 --> 01:17:54.422
Because I'm 5'10". And that clutch plate looks to be about a foot in diameter. Yeah.

01:17:55.582 --> 01:18:03.082
And here's the business end. There it is. Say hello to my little friend. Right. Tripod M60.

01:18:04.342 --> 01:18:11.542
That's the M60. Love it. Yeah. You can't. I can. That takes all of it. That's all I got.

01:18:14.122 --> 01:18:18.902
I can't. But it's a good conversation piece when I put it on my desk. Right.

01:18:19.702 --> 01:18:23.722
And just for those listening, the Tuber's forearm is almost as big around as

01:18:23.722 --> 01:18:24.902
the buttstock on that thing.

01:18:25.062 --> 01:18:28.562
So him having a hard time holding it up, that's impressive.

01:18:28.842 --> 01:18:31.282
What did you think that weapon was? We're going to schedule physical therapy

01:18:31.282 --> 01:18:32.422
tomorrow because that hurt.

01:18:32.942 --> 01:18:38.582
It's probably 30 pounds. Your brother's put out the engine weighs 1,500 pounds.

01:18:40.322 --> 01:18:46.622
Yeah, 1,525 horsepower. So you're looking at almost a one-to-one power ratio,

01:18:46.822 --> 01:18:48.802
but when you put the turbines in it, it's a lot less.

01:18:50.042 --> 01:18:54.982
Yeah so this thing's cool i wish i could go deer you're gonna have to reach

01:18:54.982 --> 01:19:01.842
out to uh cobra 31 when he brings it down to missouri yeah you know yeah get him over yeah for sure,

01:19:02.402 --> 01:19:10.482
and then engine weighs 1500 pounds yeah that's holy fook that's legit,

01:19:13.442 --> 01:19:16.282
i'll take you out in the shop show you a bunch more parts but these are the

01:19:16.282 --> 01:19:17.782
only ones that i could find that we're light.

01:19:20.982 --> 01:19:27.282
Fantastic stuff. Wow. Well, damn. All right, so we got to, we're going to be

01:19:27.282 --> 01:19:30.362
able to put there, oh, look at that picture. So that's it all opened up.

01:19:31.785 --> 01:19:35.565
Got the hood open yeah you can see inside of the,

01:19:36.165 --> 01:19:40.845
inside of that shroud that shiny shroud there is kind of the heart of the motor

01:19:40.845 --> 01:19:45.725
you got the mags, the starter, generator and up underneath it's the carburetor

01:19:45.725 --> 01:19:48.065
and then that green piece with the little white,

01:19:49.645 --> 01:19:56.825
placard on it that's the cables that come down and feed the carburetor and then you got the.

01:19:58.445 --> 01:20:01.965
Intake for the engine because this is all air cooled that

01:20:01.965 --> 01:20:05.265
that perforated shroud that's along the fuselage

01:20:05.265 --> 01:20:08.265
there all the air gets sucked in there and then

01:20:08.265 --> 01:20:11.485
there's a big fan on the back side of the the pistons

01:20:11.485 --> 01:20:14.685
and the cylinders and it just pushes all the airflow back

01:20:14.685 --> 01:20:17.805
through the motor okay nice and it's

01:20:17.805 --> 01:20:20.545
set up with quick disconnect cables there on the

01:20:20.545 --> 01:20:23.325
left hand side that you're basically looking at right at in

01:20:23.325 --> 01:20:26.625
the middle of the screen that's you know hydraulics and

01:20:26.625 --> 01:20:29.585
fuel lines and it's got an inch fuel line so i mean yeah

01:20:29.585 --> 01:20:32.345
it's a lot of

01:20:32.345 --> 01:20:36.285
how big is the fuel tank how many gallons does it hold i think

01:20:36.285 --> 01:20:39.265
it's just over 300 gallons it's got three tanks the the

01:20:39.265 --> 01:20:42.265
marine corps version has it

01:20:42.265 --> 01:20:45.125
doesn't have transfer tanks when you're in forward

01:20:45.125 --> 01:20:49.345
flight you know you've got a little bit of a tip anyway so gravity works from

01:20:49.345 --> 01:20:53.605
your back tank all the way through the middle tank to the front tank but the

01:20:53.605 --> 01:20:58.985
navy version which is what my dad flew in the commercial civilian world had

01:20:58.985 --> 01:21:03.265
transfer tanks because the Navy used the H 34 as a sonar dipper. Okay.

01:21:03.745 --> 01:21:06.285
So they're, they were sitting in more of a hover all the time.

01:21:06.425 --> 01:21:09.385
So they'd run out of fuel if they didn't transfer the fuel in. Okay.

01:21:10.850 --> 01:21:15.870
And yeah, it's amazing how some of those guys thought of that stuff, you know, 70 years ago.

01:21:16.030 --> 01:21:19.250
And just for reference, so you just said it has a one inch fuel line.

01:21:20.750 --> 01:21:27.370
The, the water main coming into your house, people, 99% of the time is half inch.

01:21:28.570 --> 01:21:35.030
Yes. Yes. Think of your sink running at full blast and you've got twice as large a line coming in.

01:21:35.690 --> 01:21:38.870
Yeah. Well, a garden hose, a garden hose about three quarters of an inch.

01:21:38.870 --> 01:21:44.830
So it's bigger than a garden hose yeah holy shit right yeah she's she's thirsty

01:21:44.830 --> 01:21:51.970
girl 12.4 12.4 gallons of oil you know 120 weight oil it's like like molasses

01:21:51.970 --> 01:21:54.850
when it's cold buckets under in the when you park her,

01:21:56.186 --> 01:21:59.406
we've got a roll around pan. Cause I mean, if she ain't leaking,

01:21:59.506 --> 01:22:03.046
she's out, you know, and that's, that's the old adage with any helicopter,

01:22:03.046 --> 01:22:08.986
you know, joke was always crew chiefs would get told by somebody who's riding as a passenger.

01:22:09.106 --> 01:22:12.586
Hey man, it's leaking over there. He's like, I don't care. That's a good thing.

01:22:13.226 --> 01:22:15.626
Wake me up when it stops leaking. Yeah. When it's not leaking,

01:22:15.726 --> 01:22:17.886
we got problems. Yeah. We got problems.

01:22:18.786 --> 01:22:23.866
So when are you guys going to be able to come up here and help me fly this thing? I need commitments.

01:22:25.206 --> 01:22:28.146
Well man i'm jammed we're jammed up i'm

01:22:28.146 --> 01:22:30.926
jammed up through the first week of june because we're going to cherry point for the

01:22:30.926 --> 01:22:34.366
sundown of the bulldogs the great american bulldogs nice

01:22:34.366 --> 01:22:38.706
yeah i'll be there yeah i'll be there for that too it'll it won't be till uh

01:22:38.706 --> 01:22:43.266
late you know the end of june and then i'm good the rest of summer june may

01:22:43.266 --> 01:22:49.106
and june i'm ruined okay we'll definitely get something together do you guys

01:22:49.106 --> 01:22:53.646
do you follow or do you know you know keith buckley cat box right I don't think so. No.

01:22:54.606 --> 01:23:05.146
He's a buddy of mine. He just took over as the executive director of this aviation museum in Ohio.

01:23:06.246 --> 01:23:11.306
Maps. Maps. And they just got a Harrier that he flew in his squadron.

01:23:11.486 --> 01:23:15.826
I don't know if it was a 214 or an Ace of Spades. Well, Ace of Spades dropped

01:23:15.826 --> 01:23:18.146
all their airplanes off all over the country at museums.

01:23:18.446 --> 01:23:20.706
Yeah. I bet. And so it's probably that.

01:23:21.834 --> 01:23:27.834
Yeah. Maps, Maps Air Museum, Military Aviation Preservation Society.

01:23:28.134 --> 01:23:30.634
So he just took over as the executive director.

01:23:31.014 --> 01:23:35.254
All right. It's a 214 bird. Where? VMFA, VMA.

01:23:36.334 --> 01:23:38.014
Where in Ohio? Canton.

01:23:39.094 --> 01:23:42.574
Canton. Canton. Huh. Okay.

01:23:45.874 --> 01:23:51.634
Yeah. You need to look him up. Good guy. Damn good guy. We went through flight school together. Nice.

01:23:53.294 --> 01:23:59.734
Nice cat box you can imagine where he got that call side he probably stunk like a cat box,

01:24:01.894 --> 01:24:05.214
well we're always good at that i get you know i i work

01:24:05.214 --> 01:24:09.774
with a bunch of air guard guys and it irritates the hell out of me how they

01:24:09.774 --> 01:24:14.374
all get call signs for just breathing and and they get cool call signs like

01:24:14.374 --> 01:24:19.034
laser and blazer and you know we get call signs because we screw something up

01:24:19.034 --> 01:24:23.554
Like Pig and Otis the Town Drunk. Yeah.

01:24:25.134 --> 01:24:29.234
Yeah. Yeah. You guys need to get that guy on.

01:24:29.374 --> 01:24:33.094
Or did you have him on? The guy who wrote a book about call signs.

01:24:33.094 --> 01:24:33.934
Yeah, we had him on. Oh, yeah.

01:24:34.114 --> 01:24:37.414
We had him on. You had him on, yeah. I think, episode 97. I'll double check.

01:24:37.874 --> 01:24:42.414
Yeah, because he wrote down how those guys got their call signs.

01:24:42.514 --> 01:24:44.654
That was probably one of my favorite episodes.

01:24:44.774 --> 01:24:47.354
Yeah, there were some good stories.

01:24:47.354 --> 01:24:50.154
There were some good stories from that episode talking about that.

01:24:51.091 --> 01:24:55.311
Yep. Yeah. Tuba had a guy named Tuba, tight uniform, big ass.

01:24:58.171 --> 01:25:04.571
Sweet. What was that? Little man can't, little angry man can't handle our program.

01:25:05.211 --> 01:25:08.191
And they, and they put a no step sticker on his helmet.

01:25:13.231 --> 01:25:18.051
I knew a frog guy, his call sign was fetus. Cause he was like five foot three.

01:25:18.271 --> 01:25:20.591
He could barely touch the tail of her pedals.

01:25:21.091 --> 01:25:28.471
But he also had like 11 kids, you know, so what a, what a dick. It was a real jerk.

01:25:28.771 --> 01:25:30.791
What was the, uh, what was the

01:25:30.791 --> 01:25:34.211
one, the guy that married the stripper that ended up being a crack whore?

01:25:34.311 --> 01:25:39.671
It was an acronym for, uh, I remember that one. Oh, what was that? Yes.

01:25:40.331 --> 01:25:45.671
So, so you, so, uh, I can't, I'll get up to, I'll get to go back and listen to it now.

01:25:46.611 --> 01:25:48.171
I'm in love with the stripper.

01:25:49.831 --> 01:25:53.311
Weird. Yeah, it looks like a bad thing Oh man,

01:25:53.990 --> 01:25:57.430
I don't know. What do you say? We probably need to consider landing the airplane.

01:25:58.170 --> 01:26:01.850
Yeah. Yeah. And we'll just plan on having Duber back at the end of the summer

01:26:01.850 --> 01:26:10.490
so we can hear where YL-37 went and how it's going and what else we need to

01:26:10.490 --> 01:26:11.670
talk about. And we need some other Marine Corps stories.

01:26:11.810 --> 01:26:17.010
We didn't hardly touch on any of it, man, from your HMX-1 days and flying presidential

01:26:17.010 --> 01:26:20.930
and vice presidential helicopters and doing advanced party stuff.

01:26:21.130 --> 01:26:25.090
I mean, you've got to see some pretty cool stuff. A lot of shit I'm sure you can't talk about.

01:26:26.490 --> 01:26:30.550
A couple things, but I got to tell my kids, I'm just a guy.

01:26:30.990 --> 01:26:34.930
I did some cool stuff once, but I'm just an Iowa farm kid.

01:26:36.090 --> 01:26:40.850
There's more humility and leadership there. Go figure. Another one of those

01:26:40.850 --> 01:26:42.650
guys with a bunch of humility. Weird.

01:26:44.830 --> 01:26:53.810
Wow. And a spare drive shaft for an 1820. You had a de-lethalized M60 on your desk. That's it.

01:26:55.290 --> 01:26:58.350
I'm going to use this as a hat rack. This thing's massive. Fantastic.

01:26:59.690 --> 01:27:03.110
Well, thank you, Duber. Thanks for sharing. And keep us posted.

01:27:03.530 --> 01:27:07.010
And all his information is going to be on our website, right?

01:27:07.130 --> 01:27:08.510
Absolutely. On our website, right?

01:27:08.810 --> 01:27:15.690
Okay. Absolutely. Get the QR code up. QR code. The website address, yl-37.org.

01:27:16.110 --> 01:27:20.030
We'll put that up there and, yeah, some cool stuff. So, well,

01:27:20.070 --> 01:27:21.330
Duber, thank you for your service.

01:27:21.770 --> 01:27:25.870
We are deeply grateful to you for that. And thank you to all the families out

01:27:25.870 --> 01:27:30.910
there who help the service members do so distraction free.

01:27:31.410 --> 01:27:36.250
That's you sacrifice as much as the service members often, sometimes more missed

01:27:36.250 --> 01:27:41.490
anniversaries, birthdays, funerals, weddings, all that stuff. And so thank you.

01:27:43.791 --> 01:27:51.091
We got to send out a shout out to Dave Hamilton, backbeatmedia.com.

01:27:52.211 --> 01:27:55.151
Absolutely. He's the guy that helped us put it all together,

01:27:55.431 --> 01:27:59.951
right? Gave us the bandwidth and the know-how and really gave you the bandwidth and know-how.

01:28:00.151 --> 01:28:02.131
I just show up and talk. Well, there's that.

01:28:03.971 --> 01:28:09.191
Good thing you do because I couldn't do this shit alone. So thank you,

01:28:09.291 --> 01:28:13.971
Dave. appreciate all your help and cash life for the bandwidth that makes that happen.

01:28:14.671 --> 01:28:20.491
Then there's the folks over at patreon.com stheriwows.us slash patreon if you

01:28:20.491 --> 01:28:25.011
want to defy your financial advisor sound advice and help keep this show going,

01:28:25.211 --> 01:28:29.831
check out over there or go to stheriwows.us slash donate and there's options

01:28:29.831 --> 01:28:33.511
for direct donations through Venmo and other such things.

01:28:33.751 --> 01:28:40.611
But you know what? Maybe take a week and go over to yl-37.org and help Duber

01:28:40.611 --> 01:28:42.591
keep this flying memorial go alive.

01:28:42.931 --> 01:28:45.791
Several people on here have stated that they've either already given or are

01:28:45.791 --> 01:28:49.051
about to. So thank you for your generosity. That's the one thing we can count

01:28:49.051 --> 01:28:50.811
on this audience. They are super generous.

01:28:51.071 --> 01:28:56.491
And hey, there's somebody out there right now that's listening now or going

01:28:56.491 --> 01:29:03.031
to hear it after it goes live that knows that Silicon Valley tech guy that's

01:29:03.031 --> 01:29:08.591
already made his bajillions of dollars and could fund this thing into perpetuity.

01:29:08.591 --> 01:29:13.071
And wouldn't even feel it so let's make that happen let's

01:29:13.071 --> 01:29:20.171
make let's make that happen come on all right heck yeah all right hey hold on

01:29:20.171 --> 01:29:24.991
a second wait wait just one second yeah you know it's almost it's almost bikini

01:29:24.991 --> 01:29:31.651
season and we have a merch store so there i was i don't have oh dude i'm gonna drive you up one.

01:29:33.890 --> 01:29:36.750
While you're wearing one i gotta see it model wear one

01:29:36.750 --> 01:29:40.570
with i gotta see it model nobody make sure you trim a little bit first to see

01:29:40.570 --> 01:29:45.830
that so there i was dot us slash merch hey we've got uh if we don't have it

01:29:45.830 --> 01:29:49.510
it's probably not made but check it out and we do have a bikini house right

01:29:49.510 --> 01:29:53.390
i don't see any dubers on there let me see if the guy's contact info still on

01:29:53.390 --> 01:29:55.270
here we'll get some Yeah, there you go.

01:29:55.430 --> 01:29:57.950
Right on. His phone number's still on.

01:29:59.550 --> 01:30:05.050
So there I was. That US slash rate is where you go and give us five stars.

01:30:05.250 --> 01:30:08.310
It helps other people find the show. So there I was at US slash rate.

01:30:08.470 --> 01:30:12.370
We could really use a five-star rating from you. Not a four-star, not a three-star.

01:30:12.570 --> 01:30:13.710
Don't even think about two or

01:30:13.710 --> 01:30:19.090
one, or we're going to have Duber hunt you down and toss you out a YL37.

01:30:19.790 --> 01:30:23.570
He'll throw the non-functional M60 at you,

01:30:23.570 --> 01:30:26.510
that'll probably hurt worse yeah right butt stroke

01:30:26.510 --> 01:30:29.210
you with this damn thing seriously we we are

01:30:29.210 --> 01:30:31.870
trainable and if we if you can't give

01:30:31.870 --> 01:30:35.050
us five stars tell us why if you gotta if you can't give us give you

01:30:35.050 --> 01:30:38.230
to give three stars give it to somebody else right repeat exactly then

01:30:38.230 --> 01:30:40.890
come back and give us five stars and tell us what we can do

01:30:40.890 --> 01:30:43.790
better so and share the show for crying out loud share the

01:30:43.790 --> 01:30:46.510
show with somebody this right you know word of mouth is

01:30:46.510 --> 01:30:49.430
the best way it really is tell somebody

01:30:49.430 --> 01:30:54.770
about the show and that there's bound to be a story in these 208 episodes that

01:30:54.770 --> 01:30:59.450
that you love and you know someone else will love i mean it's hangar talk it's

01:30:59.450 --> 01:31:05.310
aviation yeah it's flying it's great flying stories i'm thinking of yeah the

01:31:05.310 --> 01:31:08.350
guy that takes the most awesome aviation photography pictures.

01:31:09.132 --> 01:31:14.912
Brad Silcott, BDS Aviation Photography, also known as Badass. He's a big supporter.

01:31:15.392 --> 01:31:17.572
And he was here earlier, I think.

01:31:18.152 --> 01:31:24.592
Thanks, Badass. I think so, yeah. And then Sticks and Bago, they are usually in the background.

01:31:24.792 --> 01:31:28.352
Sticks was here, and then he was gone, and now he's back. He's out seeing patients

01:31:28.352 --> 01:31:35.072
and has the poor taste to show us some really gross shit now and then with pictures. All anonymized.

01:31:35.652 --> 01:31:39.912
Yeah, anonymized. Of course. I don't want to talk. We're violating HIPAA here, but oh, my God.

01:31:40.492 --> 01:31:46.732
Yeah. I saw something last night that I can't unsee. No. We're scarred for life now. Stop it, Stick.

01:31:47.872 --> 01:31:53.332
Choke it. Just saying. All right. Thank you so much, guys.

01:31:54.112 --> 01:31:58.492
You're awesome, buddy. I'm hearing something. Are you getting some noise in the background?

01:31:58.512 --> 01:32:02.652
That's the F-16 guys that make the Air Force sound good. The Dos Gringos.

01:32:03.712 --> 01:32:08.112
Both of them. Yeah. Both of them. thanks boys for letting us use your music

01:32:08.112 --> 01:32:12.052
we're grateful, if you're having a bad day go listen to some of those gringos

01:32:12.052 --> 01:32:14.632
it will lighten your heart, I promise,

01:32:15.352 --> 01:32:21.892
so and go to wild, and go to yankeelima-37.org and make a donation a big one.

01:32:23.492 --> 01:32:29.412
Huge, huge please do and thanks Dick, Dick says he refuses to be traumatized

01:32:29.412 --> 01:32:32.232
alone, so hey that's why he has to show us all that shit that's okay brother,

01:32:32.272 --> 01:32:36.452
that's okay you can tell us, if it helps you, you can tell All right.

01:32:38.532 --> 01:32:41.572
Until next week. Don't sit on the collective.

01:32:47.912 --> 01:32:49.172
Well, there I was.

01:33:18.630 --> 01:33:23.150
Never over. And of course it isn't coming out now. Son of a bad word.

01:33:23.310 --> 01:33:25.770
Oh, well. It ain't over until we say it's him.

01:33:28.970 --> 01:33:30.150
And we are out.